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#1 greenmac80

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:06 PM

Hey all. long time member but have been inactive for a long time.
Here is my MS85 crown rolling on lincoln continental wheels.
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So i got this car cheap. real cheap. knackered 4m. well knackered everything.
I found a rebuilt 4m dirt cheap and put it in. got it running and driving then played the game of replacing everything.
First i replaced all steering componenets. then Shocks. Then all the bushes.
Drove so nice. albeit slow.
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Always felt that it needed a v8. but was content to drive it as it was for a long while.

then a soarer came along for a measly sum of $550. so bye bye 4m and hello 1uz.
i'm about to throw myself into this conversion but i have researched and planned out pretty much everything that could go wrong. so it should sail pretty smooth.

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:07 PM

I recently did a trip to Talbot and found a ton of ms85 stuff. mine being an early car it has the solid front discs. so i was mainly chasing the late model spindle so i could upgrade.
got a heap of trim bits and accessories mine lacks because its a lowly se.
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the soarer in question halfway thru stripping.
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the new donk. was nice and strong said bye to plenty of tyres before getting pulled.
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wiring. about 50% through it.
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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:07 PM

Brake upgrades were a big issue. i searched and searched and didnt find squat. vague references only.
i eventually came to this. BA falcon rotor slightly modified. R33gtst calipers. on the late model ms85 hub/spindle. got some rings machined out of stainless to take up the
slack in the bore of the rotor. The rotor needed 1mm shaved off OD. the caliper bolts on well with no spacing needed.
Longer studs and we're done.
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Rear brakes.. not too sure. hoping to mod rt142 corona rear plates to fit. if i can't then i'm gonna have a hard time finding an ms112 solid rear end.

Booster and Master will be toyota surf boost with ma61? i think MC which should be 1". i might have the model code wrong.

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:08 PM

next issue was the sump. managed to do a swap of sorts and have sold this rear sump setup and bought a mid sump setup. stoked.
Have sourced the non hydro fan idler bracket and pulley as well.
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rear sump removed.

These girls have steering boxes. it may foul on the headers. plus even with all new components the stock box is sloppy as.
so ive been planning out a rack and pinion conversion using a saab 900 centre pivot rack modded. this rack also gives a quicker steer of 3 turns lock to lock. it should work will need some custom bracketry and x member to mount it all.
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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:08 PM

Wheels. well well. these cars can take some pretty decent wheels.
Probably not most ppls cup of tea but hey i love em.
Work eurolines. 18x10 +18 rear with 295/30 and 18x9+21 fronts.
will be changing the rear tyres to a 275/40 to gain some clearance and some extra height to help with grip.
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rear contact patch with 295 looks awesome pity i can't keep em.
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Posted 24 June 2015 - 02:32 PM

Gets quite complex very quickly- Motor, plus sump conversion, plus steering conversion, then more parts to hook up to the struts, with new brakes, and wheels... Never mind the driveline, electronics & heater/AC/radiator.

Should be great when its finished!
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Posted 24 June 2015 - 04:18 PM

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 04:35 PM

View Postaltezzaclub, on 24 June 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

Gets quite complex very quickly- Motor, plus sump conversion, plus steering conversion, then more parts to hook up to the struts, with new brakes, and wheels... Never mind the driveline, electronics & heater/AC/radiator.

Should be great when its finished!

Yes your right. I'll be retaining the stock crown heater controls and most likely scrapping AC for now just to simplify it a bit.. Not my first motor swap but the most complex in terms of changing brakes and rear end etc. i did a RWD 4efe ke30 yrs ago that worked and was a first.

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 05:49 PM

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:07 PM

Hay mate, just joined to converse with a fellow barge driver haha.
I just got a 5mge with a rebuilt head into my ms85 and getting her ready for rego, your project looks sweet, you got a very good condition car there,
mine was an ex- farmer's family car so its fulla rust and mud. I'm impressed with some of the ideas you have, different steering racks etc,

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 10:46 AM

car comes off the rd thursday night so updates should happen pretty regular. 5mge is definitely a good step up from the sneezy 4m. Trust me shes not that great up close. few areas of cancer and dents galore. 50 shades of yellow as well. will give her a resto towards end of year

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 12:42 PM

yah I havn't seen many old crowns with no rust, and the ones I have seen people want way too much for them.
good stuff i'm keen to see more pics

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:02 AM

sooooo updates.. car came off rd thursday night.
night 1.

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front end apart. motor off to new owner. No RUST in the front end at all. was really pleased to see. where youd expect it, it was squeaky clean.

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:05 AM

Night 2.

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decided since the front came apart itd be a shame to do it al again so we stripped it. will get a restoration as well. the 3 month timeline just got really tight.
again very little rust has been found.

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:08 AM

then sunday did some panel work. i run my own restoration shop so having all the right gear on hand makes things alot easier.
ALWAYS bare metal old cars if u want it to last. you never know what sort of gremlins are hiding.
this rear door is a perfect example. TONS of bog in it. Now don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with a bit of filler BUT when its used in excess for no reason it pisses me off. this whole door had a really thick layer. really didnt need it

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epoxied. will put em aside and work on em later.

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