KETURBO25 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Ive looked everywhere on the net to see wether or not its possible to pull a rubbish starfire out of a xt130 Corona and drop in a holden 6 (202) and ive found no answers. I found this to be surprising considering the engine mounts and most everything else looks the same, the only thing that ive heard needs to happen is the radiator needs a thermo mounted on the front rather then the back (engine side). Ive got both a VH Commodore and a xt130 Corona so all the parts are easily sourced for a conversion. Please let me know if you've heard of this being done cause I'm sure it can happen, i just wanna know if the 202 motor and box will fit in without having to change cross members or not. *PLEASE NOTE* I'm quite aware that this is Rolla Club, not corona club, not holden club. I'm merely asking if you have any knowledge of this conversion. :jamie: Pete. :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corollaart Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Couldnt see it being that hard to do ,as i wrecked one recently the only thing is check where the engine mounts on the poo motor are compared to the 6 cyclinder version. Meaning i can't remember if they choped off (hacksawed)the front two cyclinders ,or rear two,or one either end. :jamie: Every think else should be fairly straight foward. You no why they where blue don't you :y: balance central :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KETURBO25 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Lol dude, i can't wait to get ride of the starfire. :yes: Ive riden motorised push bikes that would cain it in take off! I'm not only doing it for the extra power, I'm doing it cause theyre more reliable. :y: Seriously, the starfire motor is by far the biggest peice of shit to have ever been built ever!!!!! :jamie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towe001 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 An old female "friend" (god bless her dog of a heart) was going to do the conversion till she wrapped the car around a power pole lol From what i know the starfire is either a 186 or 202 but either way it started its life as a 6 and had the front two cylinders cut off (or was it the back) and that means you can pretty well much use every hot up bit the 6 uses. From what the "friend" found out but never got a chance to see is that the 202 will drop straight in without mods. My guess is that the gearbox would be the same one used between the motors - so that'll mean same bolt holes for the bellhousing. See if you can measure from the back of the motor to where the engine mounts are and do the same on the other motor. Wouldn't be surprised if its the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRedSpirit Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I think the chassis is designed for 4 cylinders so youd be better off building a hot starfire from a handling point of view. Ive heard first hand accounts of them being absolute animals once properly prepared. Talk to swift race engines in Brisbane, he builds lots of hot Holden sixes for race cars up here. That technology transfers straight over to the starfire. Might open your eyes to what the starfire could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KETURBO25 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Well to be honest i thought i would get slammed for putting this post in Rolla Club, But once again the members have proven to be extremly helpful. :yes: I always laugh when i see noobs coming on this site to ask questions that have all been asked before and have no money, and the reaction from some senior members is priceless. lol :jamie: I'm still surprised that no one else has really considered doing this especially when it sounds so easy, like i said, i have all the parts to do the job properly so I'm gonna go ahead and do it, i got the VH for $300 and the Corona for $100 so its not gonna break the bank, plus i can do it myself so it should be free. Thanks again guys. :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 As I said to Pete yesterday, From looking at both the starfire and the 202 in my ute, the front two cylinders have been sliced off. Meaning the bellhousing face to engine mounts will be the same distance. The distance from the engine mounts to the front of the block is the only thing that changes. Bolt up a Blue VK series EFI manifold, extractors and a mild cam, should be plenty enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KETURBO25 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Agreed Ryan, EFI will go sick on the old 202. It would be nice to go 186 but ive got the 202 so I'm not gonna root around too much, not for a corona. :jamie: Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Agreed,186 would be ideal for the fact it will rev a bit easier due to the shorter stroke. Sure, you loose 0.3L by goin the 186. But you saw how a 202 has enough torque to have fun in a one tonner. 186 would definatly have enough to have some decent fun in a rona. But if its there, doo it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon550 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 i have known 3 people that have done the conversion and they had to cut the piece that has the bonnet latch out and move the radiator that's about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben-89 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 The 1892cc starfire engine is derived from the 173ci or 2.8 litre straight six holden motor. The 202 was not used for a strafire due do noise, vibration and harshness issues. Though the capacity would have been increased to 2.2 or 2.3 litres.. Still it would be interesting seeing a Corona with a holden 6 in it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNOBBLER[RL] Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 There used to be a 'rona in Melbourne that used to race at Calder running a gas recearch fed, turboed etc 202 in it... ran 10's for many years and looked stock as a rock.. Not sure how she would handle with the big 6 up front past the wheels but I can't see it being to bad. Would be a great cruiser/bruiser for minimal coin. JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KETURBO25 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Yeah man, keen as to do it. its gonna happen next saturday so ill keep everyone posted on this. Thanks for all the kno :jamie: wledge and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 again Pete, if you need a hand, let me know. :jamie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent-KE30 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I was going to do this conversion ages ago and the engine mounts are in a different spot on the 202, from memory I don't think you could just "bolt" it in leaving the gearbox in the same spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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