Jordanrolla Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Website AVAILABLE visit KEconversions.com Thought I might just bring all my ads together into one thread My name is Jordan and I run KE conversions I offer simple design engine conversion kits for older KE series corolla's. All my mounts are designed in the same way so that you remove your dirty old k series engine then bolt my mounts to your engine of choice and drop it straight back onto the original engine crossmember with no other modifications needed. All my kits are designed with a no firewall or tunnel cutting policy. Some slight tunnel massaging or sump modification may be required in some conversions. This will be specified in the description of fitting requirements. A quick list of conversions i offer, this also acts as an index to find the conversion. TA22: SR20 KE10: 4AGE KE20: 4AGE, CA18, SR20, 3SGTE KE30: 4AGE, CA18, SR20, 3SGE BEAMS, 3SGTE, 1JZ/2JZ KE70: 4AGE, CA18, SR20, 1JZ 2JZ, 3SGE BEAMS, 3SGTE, COMMO V6, 1UZFE, 4G63, 3RZFE AE86: 4AGE, CA18, SR20, 3SGE BEAMS, 4G63, 3SGTE, 1UZFE, 1JZ/2JZ RA65/ST141 celica/corona: CA18, SR20 TA22 SERIES CONVERSION I made 2 versions of this kit, 1 upright, 1 with the factory tilt. NOTE: this is done with an S14 SR20 with the top mounted plenum, if you use the S13 engine the standard intake will not clear the steering box so a custom plenum will be required. Both kits are only a few mm off the firewall, this was necessary to have it this close as to get the steering clearance so there will be some firewall tapping to get some clearance & around the top of the tunnel for the bellhousing. Upright kit - looks good, aesthetically pleasing to the eye. Nothing wrong with it being upright though the sump doesnt follow the crossmember. If you choose the upright kit you will have to grind a small amount out of the webbing at the back of the sump as the draglink (steering arm) stops just short of full lock hitting the sump. Or you could go a custom draglink if your worried or don't want to grind anything off the sump. Also sump to engine crossmember is not quite 10mm clearance on the drivers side so for engineering purposes have to either cut/bash the crossmember (small section) or cut and weld a small amount off the sump. In the upright position, the head sits further away from the heater outlets WITH the mounting tab cut off. Option 2 Factory tilt - Sits on the angle and personally looks not right, but it follows the sump perfectly, has better clearance and there is probably 2 -3 mm clearance on full lock. The heater hoses may have to be relocated coming through the firewall as there is only a few mm clearance and this is with the mounting tab cut off. So if your engine shakes too much you may pierce the hoses. Gearbox crossmember has been designed to allow for a high mounted exhaust Full kit: Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Bolt kit $350 KE10 SERIES CONVERSION Now available 4AGE into KE10 kits When sitting this engine in the bay i was surprised at the drama's it gave me. One of the smallest engines you can convert to in this shell still gave me a few issues, wouldnt recommend putting any other engine in unless you don't mind replacing the firewall and tunnel as the T50 only just squeezes in there. The thing weighs in at 690kg so just a n/a 4age with a few mods should go pretty damn well, 4AGTE if you really want to do some quick 1/4 mile times. Fitting requirements : Steering, inlet manifold (bigport) and clutch slave are the main issues. Steering and inlet manifold - it had to be one or the other, if i were to make it fit so the inlet manifold could be used you wouldnt be able to turn full lock, so i figured steering would be more expensive to replace or get to work than an inlet manifold. Mind you we are talking about a bigport rwd inlet manifold (hits on the brake master) I'm certain a smallport inlet manifold would clear or at least be easier to modify if it doesnt fit due to it having single runners instead of twin runners for the tvis on the bigport. However there is room on the engine mounts to notch the holes out to bring the engine forward if you don't mind sacrificing a bit of lock to be able to use the standard bigport manifold. So as it sits, steering clears only just and this is without the engine to gearbox lower brackets. Slave cylinder - I have used a ADM bellhousing (slave on passenger side) on a T50 gearbox and with the fitment of a slave cylinder you can't even get half a turn without it hitting, I'm sure if you used a JDM bellhousing you might run into the same problem, someone can correct me if you try. So option will be when i get around to designing the hydraulic pedal box kits for the KE10 series, is a howe type hydraulic throw out bearing. I will update as I get closer to finishing the design. Gearbox crossmember - As the KE10 only has 2 bolt holes for a gearbox crossmember, i HIGHLY recommend drilling out the crossmember and chassis rail for a 2nd set of bolt holes. An easy way to get an extra pair of bolt holes in are called "nutserts or nut inserts" have a google/youtube, these are very handy and cheap for when modifying cars. Firewall - firewall itself clears fine, but the bulge one the firewall is less than 10mm clearance from the back of the head. Legal requirements are 10mm or more clearance so you will need to do some slight massaging or whatever your method is. Water outlet - i am using a AE82 water outlet on the back of the cylinder head and due to the bulge i can not fit it. It may fit after the bulge is flattened or I will look into making some slimline outlets soon. Pics Pic of where the booster will hit the inlet manifold and for the amount of people who have suggested to me that the KE10 and KE20 share the same crossmember . . . here is the comparison, blue crossmember KE20, black crossmember KE10 Full kit : Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Full bolt kit Price: $300 KE20 SERIES CONVERSION Includes KE20 KE25 and KE26 4AGE + T50 kits available $300 for a full bolt in kit includes : Block mounts Rubber mounts Sway bar spacers Geabox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments : For a little engine its still tight in the front and back, but the best fitting engine. Remember the KE20 weighs next to nothing so it doesnt need much to push it around. Sway bar is just a fraction too close to the crank pulley so it needs to be spaced down minimum 8mm. If you plan on running a 4AGE 20v, there is little room at the back of the 16v engine so you may have to cut or bash the firewall for the distributor. You need to make a new shifter hole. I have spoken with a customer recently and i will re-design some engine mounts so that you can run a 20v without firewall cutting/bashing, however this will mean you will have to run a custom swaybar. Blue crossmember is for the 4AGE into KE20 CA18DE/T + 5 Speed kits available $350 for a full kit Includes: Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments: I get alot of requests for SR20 into KE20, but what people don't realize is the amount of work involved over an SR20 as opposed to a CA18. I'm not even sure an SR20 turbo will be legal but you can engineer a CA18 turbo. In a tiny little KE20, you wont be missing those extra 200cc's, but if you do you can always stoke out your CA18. Unlike the SR20, the CA18 goes in (only just) WITHOUT firewall or tunnel cutting/replacing. This engine is a tight fit! For those of you who know about the common problems when doing this conversion is the steering being very tight fit. On full lock to the right the steering arm is only milimeters off the bellhousing. The reason I have mounted the engine the way it is, is because of my NO firewall cutting policy, but the option is there to be able to move the engine further back or not. The back of the cylinder head is only about 5mm of the the firewall. When I say the firewall I'm talking about the bulge on the firewall that is there for the heater fan on the other side. If you don't mind ditching the fan in the cabin, or moving it to be able to push/bash the bulge in on the firewall, you could easily slot the hole's on the engine mounts and gearbox crossmember to gain another 10mm of clearance on both the steering and firewall. You can not run the standard sway bar You can not use the standard gearbox stays, you could modify them and they may work but the steering fouls on them. Or if you did something about the firewall bulge and moved the motor back you may get away with using the standard gearbox stays The gearbox crossmember's have been designed to allow for an exhaust tp be made closer to the floorpan, giving you better ground clearance for lowred cars. So for all you anti CA18 people the SR20 into KE20 kit is now available. Personally I don't understand why so many people are adamant on going the SR20 path, i would be more than happy with a 4AGTE in a 800kg platform car, would go in with half of the work but meh. So fitting requirements: Steering and tunnel are the two main issues. So to get around the steering are two options, when i made this kit I had two engines on hand. 1st engine I completely ground off all the webbing at the rear of the sump, this was not necessary but made fitting the engine easier. Then once the mounts were tac'd I swapped it over for a non modified sump engine, i couldnt get the steering bolted back up so what i can suggest is grinding small amounts of the webbing off until you achieve good clearance OR I have seen custom drag link's made up. As most of my latest released kits there is room on the mounts to notch the holes to move the engine further back if you not happy where it sits or you just want better weight distribution. As it sits the bellhousing is hard pressed on the tunnel, so you will have to either give it some love with a hammer OR cut and replace it, personally i think a good beating will work out fine. The body of the gearbox has good clearance, but the tapered tunnel where the shifter will comes out will need to be cut and replaced. The bulge on the firewall for the blower fan has been cut out but the rest of the firewall remains intact. Currently there is around 15mm clearance of engine to firewall, so there is still room to go back and this should achieve better steering clearance. Using an S13 engine with the factory intake will not allow you to run the standard brake master, so you will have to use a custom intake manifold on your S13 engine. Using a S14 engine it clears the brake master fine. My hydraulic pedal box kit for the KE20 series puts the clutch master on the other side of the brake master (so drivers side) as opposed to the usual passenger side so it will clear also. The brake line distribution/connector blocks have been removed as they get in the way of the back of the engine so you will have to make up new brake lines. Sump sits around 5 - 10mm lower than the engine crossmember, and bonnet clearance is about 1" I found this build thread to be very good and informative, gives you an idea of what you are about to commit to http://www.rollaclub...0-powered-ke20/ Pics : Full kit : Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Price $350 3SGE/3SGTE into KE20 series corolla The 3SGTE is one of the most compact 2ltr engines available, and best part is they are toyota! Putting one of these in your 800kg platform corolla would haul ass, fits lot better than the SR20 but obviously a bit of custom work to go with. Fitting requirements: I have removed the bulge on the firewall to get a much better fit, this is easy to do and replace it with a bit of sheet steel and you can space out the blower fan under the dash or just not run an interior blower fan. The bellhousing clears fine but the body of the gearbox is hard pressed up against the tunnel so some tunnel work is required. Now before you go cutting your tunnel completely out, something i have seen before might be an easier option i thought i might share. You can cut a slit right down the top/middle and down the side like so . . . So once cut you can pry the tunnel apart and then just replace the top section and fill in the ends, would be an easy job that wouldnt take as long as replacing the whole tunnel. I have done this conversion without the use of the distributor in the back of the head, here is a link to do a easy conversion to c.a.s using the 5sfe oil pump housing http://www.toymods.o....rwdd-3sge.html With the use of the hilux style rear housing on the W58 the gearstick will come out of the original hole which is a bonus. Gearbox crossmember took me a long time to make, made specifically so that you can have ample room for a large exhaust while having a lowered as f%$& KE20 There is enough room at the back of the head to make a water outlet, rwd water kits and rwd in/ex manifolds i will be doing in the future to suit these kits. Anyway here are some pics . . . Full Kit : Block mounts Rubber mounts One heck of a gearbox crossmember and a complete bolt kit Price $350 Conversions on the to do list for KE20 series will be : EVO 4-9 4G63 BEAMS possibly others but all of the above will require custom firewall/tunnel jobs Edited March 20, 2021 by Jordanrolla website 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) KE30 SERIES CONVERSION Includes KE30 KE35 KE36 KE55 4AGE + T50 kits available $250 for a full kit includes : Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments : Easy fit, good clearance everywhere. Good cheap upgrade. You need to make a new shifter hole. CA18DE/T + 5 speed kits available $350 for a full kit Includes : Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments : Excellent fitment with plenty of clearance everywhere. Possibly the best fitting engine into any of the cars I have done so far. Only issue is where the heater outlet comes through the firewall is too close. Option is to either not run a heater, or braze some 90 degree fittings onto the outlets. Highly reccomended you use the CA/RB gearbox combo as you gain 50mm more closer to the original shifter hole. You will need to make a new shifter hole SR20DE/T + 5 speed kits available $350 for a full kit Includes : Block mounts rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments : A tight fit, around 10mm clearance off the sway bar and possibly less off the firewall. Some light massaging of the firewall where the back of the cylinder head is may be required. I know for a fact with this conversion that you will have to run the SR/RB box combo as a customer has notified me that the standard SR20 gearbox shifter comes out just before the center rail. You could still run the standard 5 speed if you don't mind cutting a very small section of the center rail. 3SGE BEAMS + J160 conversion kit $350 Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember complete bolt kit Engine mounts are full tig welded 5mm mild steel plate Gearbox crossmember is 3 and 5mm angle iron full tig welded Comments: Its a whole lot of engine for a small engine bay. You will have to loose alot of the webbing on the back of the sump where it meets the gearbox as there is little room on full lock of the steering arm. There will be some massaging of the firewall for the external oil drain/pipes. You will need to run a remote resivour for the clutch master if you run the standard intake manifold. You will need to cut a large hole out for the remote shifted J160. The sump sits approx 30mm lower than the engine crossmember so a 3mm plate welded onto the sump or a custom made bash plate will be a good idea. Custom swaybar will be required. There is also room for the mounts to be notched to bring it further back if you want it even further back if you don't mind cutting into the firewall or giving it a serious bashing to give more room for the steering etc. 3SGTE + W58 kits $300 Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Engine mounts are full tig welded 5mm mild steel plate Gearbox crossmember is 3 and 5mm angle iron full tig welded Comments: Using a 2sc series bellhousing, 2sc sump and a W58 gearbox to complete this conversions. This is one exceptionally well fitting engine into this engine bay. Quite possibly the best ive done so far. The 3sgte is such a compact little engine for its 2ltr capacity. I have completed this conversion with the distributor removed for a much much better fit. Without the use of the distributor and no rack and pinion to get in the way this engine can get some serious far back and down low fitment. Standard sway bar fits, and there is over 4 inch's clearance between the steering arm and bellhousing. Heap of clearance everywhere you look and for all you whingers and complainers about having to cut a new shifter hole, this is one of the few conversions you can get away without making a new shifter hole by using a hilux style shifter on your w58. This is a link to some interesting info in regards to getting rid of the dizzy: http://www.toymods.o...-rwdd-3sge.html 1JZ 2JZ into KE30 kits This is a firewall, tunnel job. Id start with the firewall first and then mod the tunnel if required (donor car was already missing tunnel) Apart from cutting the firewall/tunnel it is a good fit, small section off passenger side crossmember mount has to be trimmed to clear the front sump. Full kit: Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember to suit A340 auto OR w58 manual (w58 crossmember will also suit R154 with some slight notching) Price $350 Conversion kits on the to do list for the KE30 - KE55 EVO 4 - 9 4G63 commo V6 possibly more Edited June 10, 2014 by Jordanrolla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) KE70 SERIES CONVERSION Includes KE70 AE71 4AGE + T50 kits available $250 for a full kit Includes : Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments : This kit is the exact same thing as buying a AE71 engine crossmember, block and rubber mounts and a AE71 gearbox crossmember without actually buying those parts. This kit saves you the hassle of tracking down all those hard to find and overpriced parts! This conversion was done in an AE71 car, with the motor solid mounted then the AE71 crossmember was removed and a KE70 crossmember slipped under and the mounts were made. So it has the exact same positioning from a factory AE71 mounting kit. Even the T50 is in the same spot so you can still use an AE71 tailshaft to complete the conversion. AE71/AE86 replacement block mounts $100 per pair Comments : These are replica's of the standard AE71/AE86 engine block or metal mount. Perfect for people who already have an AE71/AE86 engine crossmember. You need to cut off the locating pin off the factory rubber mount in order for these mounts to fit. CA18DE/T + 5 speed kit $350 for a full kit Includes : Block mounts Rubber mounts 12mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolt kit Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments : Great fit, excellent clearance. You will need to make a new shifter hole. Highly reccomended you use the SR/RB gearbox combo. SR20DE/T + 5 speed kit $350 for a full kit Includes: Block mounts Rubber mounts 20mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolt kit Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments : By far the most popular kit for the KE70. Great fit, easy conversion with loads of information on the swap all over the net. Highly reccomended you use the SR/RB gearbox conversion. You will need to make a new shifter hole Washer marks the spot where the shifter comes through the floor. This is with a RB/SR gearbox combo 1JZ 2JZ kits into KE70/AE71 available Fitting requirements: This is the exact kit I'm using for my own "company car" It pushes the engine as far back as possible and fits amazingly well for a straight 6 in a tiny little corolla. Though there is firewall and tunnel modification required. I haven't recessed the firewall but I did replace the firewall with a flat piece of steel to get rid of the bulge's to get the engine further back and I also will be relocating the heater outlets. The sump fits perfectly and is no lower than the crossmember and an AE86 swaybar fits like a glove. Kit for AE71 crossmember uses factory AE71 or AE86 rubber mounts (not supplied) KE70 kit uses cortina rubber mounts PICTURES HERE > Full kit KE70 Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember to suit A340, W58 or R154. Complete bolt kit $350 Full kit AE71 Block mounts Gearbox crossmember to suit A340, W58 or R154. Complete bolt kit $320 Edited February 18, 2016 by Jordanrolla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) 3SGE BEAMS + 6 speed kit (W58 crossmembers will be available in the future) $350 for a full kit Includes: Block mounts Rubber mounts 25mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolt kit Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments: As most of you know it is challenging getting a beams into a ke70, most end up chopping the firewall to make it fit but i wanted to base my kits on not having to do any nasty firewall or tunnel cutting to install it. Pro's are: you will have a beams engine sitting in your engine bay you DO NOT have to cut your firewall you DO NOT have to do any tunnel bashing you can run the standard intake you can fit a strut brace over the top of the engine cover Cons are: you will have to cut the rear of your sump you will have to get a custom swaybar (I have some on order) you have to run 1" crossmember spacers (supplied in kit) If you want to go with the 6 speed, you will have to cut a large section out for the shifter being a remote shifter it sits pretty high. I will be making gearbox crossmembers for a W58 you will have to cut the flange off the end of your exhaust manifold It was neccesary to get the sump to clear the steering rack. If the sump wasnt cut the engine would not fit any other easier way, eg more crossmember spacers would be required (25mm is my limit) the standard intake would not fit etc etc. Cutting the sump can be done with an angle grinder with a 1mm cut off disc, it can be tricky as you can only cut off 1" squares/triangles to get to the other areas to get the whole job done. Its probably not the neatest way to do it but it can be done without taking the sump off the engine. You will have to get it plated with say some 2 or 3mm alloy plate either tig welded on or there are some super stong automotive glues that would do the job. For the neatest way to cut it would be to take it off and do 2 clean cuts with a ban saw. BEAMS + W58 into KE70/AE71 So i got around to trialing the beams into ke70 with a w58 and it turned out so much better than expected. Beams + the factory 6 speed was a headache due to the non tapered bellhousing making it very hard to get a good fit. With this kit the only downside's are the factory plenum does not clear the KE70 brake booster and you will need to run a remote resivour for the clutch master if you choose to stick with the standard intake plenum. Upside is: The reduction in height of crossmember spacers from 25 to 15mm Minimal grinding of the sump as apposed to cutting a large section for the 6 speed kit Standard AE86 swaybar fits Engine sits alot lower and further back Some firewall bashing required to get a bit of clearance for the external oil drain at the back of the head There are some options when fitting this setup in particular with the plenum issue. As a few of my customers have gone straight to a quad setup I thought the sacrifice of the plenum was a good choice due to a much better fitment. However if you don't want to go quads straight away you can: 1 fit an early KE30 brake booster (bolts straight up) 2 you can simply not run a booster at all, there are adaptors available from t3 that will allow the master to bolt straight up to the firewall or 3 modify the intake plenum to fit around the stock booster This kit is available to suit both the KE70 or AE71 crossmember Full kit: Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember 15mm crossmember spacers Longer high tensile bolts for crossmember Complete bolt kit Engine mounts are made from 5mm mild steel plate and are fully tig welded Gearbox crossmember is made from 3 and 5mm angle iron and is fully tig welded Price is $350 for a complete kit 3SGTE into KE70 conversion kit $300 for a full kit Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Full bolt kit Pretty good fit all the way around. Slight massage to the sump where the drivers side rack mount is to gain 10mm clearance, there is about 2- 3mm clearance as is. Shifter hole needs to be cut slightly No crossmember spacers required. Commo V6 + T5 mounting kits ONLY AVAILABLE TO SUIT THE AE71 CROSSMEMBER, can not be done with a KE70 engine crossmember Due to the awesomeness of the square top design of the gearbox you will have to bend some brake and fuel lines down in one area, easy fix Shifter is a fair ways back So full kit : Block mounts Rubber mounts 20mm crosssmember spacers with longer high tensile bolts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit $350 1UZFE + W58 or A340 (standard auto) kits $350 for a full kit Includes: Block mounts Rubber mounts 25mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolt kit Gearbox crossmember to suit (please notify me which gearbox you are using) Complete bolt kit Comments: Now, let me just start by saying that this is a V8 into a corolla mounting kit! Its a V8 in a tiny corolla. It was never going to be a 100% bolt in, no other work required to go in. So here are the things required to get this into your KE70/AE71 This kit is to suit a AE71 or a KE70 with an AE71 engine crossmember, it could NOT be done with a KE70 engine crossmember You will need a front sump'd 1UZFE You will need to grind a small amount of alloy off the sump where the drivers side rack mount is closest to the sump You will need a custom front sway bar You will need to beat the tunnel a bit where the firewall/tunnel meets as the bellhousing is just touching. You will need to slightly cut the shifter hole You will need to run 10mm bonnet spacers OR bash or cut the frame right around where the V8 badge is, everywhere else clears fine The 1UZFE I have used in this conversion is out of a crown, so the oil filter is located at the back of the engine where as celsior and soarer 1UZ's have the oil filter at the front of the engine so oil filter relocation kit may have to be used. Pro's are: You will have a V8 corolla You can run the standard brake booster and clutch master Surprisingly good clearance to make a set of extractors OR modify the standard ones or a couple of turbo manifolds. When fitting this kit It is recommended to install the crossmember spacers and leave the crossmember bolts loose so the crossmember is dropped giving you more room to get the engine into position. EVO 4 - 9 4G63 + W58 kits $350 for a full kit Includes: Block mounts Rubber mounts 12mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolt kit Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Commnets: 12mm crossmember spacer's (supplied in kit) As is the engine gets in there without them, but the very front/top of the engine cover is a bee's dick off the bonnet. Slight massage of the top of the tunnel right after the tunnel meets the firewall. The bellhousing clears but it may rub A small mod to the sump is required where the drivers side rack mount is. You can either shape it with a hammer or cut and weld it, if you shape it be aware that there is a main girdle on the other side of the sump. As is the sump is touching the rack mount, you only need to gain 10mm clearance. Shifter hole needs to be cut slightly. Pro's are: Swaybar has heaps of clearance, swaybar pictured is an AE86 item, KE70 swaybar may fit if not an AE86 will. Gets under a strut brace easily Good clearance in most area's Looks ʞ©$ɟing awesome! 3RZ into KE70 kits Fitting requirements: She's a big capacity, tall motor, but it still fits easy enough. The kit comes with 20mm crossmember spacers but if you opt for a custom inlet manifold or even relocate the throttle body you could reduce the crossmember space to about 10mm or even less. If you wish to run no spacers at all, then a bonnet hump or even getting rid of the under bracing will do fine. This conversion has been done with "Lappy's" custom front sump, as most 3RZ's come rear sump'd from hilux's, there are front sumps from a prado but i don't see them pop up too often. There is no garuntee that the front sump from the prado will fit as i didnt have one to try it but it should be easier to modify to make it fit than the rear sump if it does not fit. Full kit : Block mounts Rubber mounts 20mm crossmember spacers with longer high tensile bolts (different height spacers can be had on request) gearbox crossmember bag o bolts n shit $350 Edited March 23, 2014 by Jordanrolla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) AE86 Series Conversions CA18DE/T + 5 speed kits $350 for a complete kit Includes: Block mounts Rubber mounts 12mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolt kit Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Comments: You need to slightly shape/massage your sump where the driverside rack mount is with a hammer to gain 10mm clearance. 2 min job. Excellent clearance everywhere else Highly recommended you use the CA/RB gearbox combo to gain 50mm shifter clearance. You will need to make a new shifter hole. SR20DE/T + 5 speed kits $350 for a complete kit Includes: Block mounts Rubber mounts 20mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolt kit Complete bolt kit Comments: You may need to grind a small amount off your sump where the drivers side rack mount is. It is probable not necessary but for engineering purposes to gain the legal 10mm clearance requirement its worth just taking a small amount off. Less than a 5 minute job. Highly reccomended you use the SR/RB gearbox combo, you will need to make a new shifter hole Re-post with a shout out to Sam from SQ engineering and his awesome upgrade parts for the 3SGE BEAMS engine Beams into AE86 The engine just fits behind the standard swaybar and there is minimal sump grinding required. For RHD cars you will have to run a remote reservoir for the clutch master (one off a early KE30 or TA22 will do the job) or an NJ pagero clutch master may fit. LHD models will not have this problem. Because the engine is so far back to avoid heavy sump grinding and the use of the standard swaybar, the factory rear water outlet/external oil drain is too close to the firewall. SQ engineering does a really nice slim water/oil outlet direct replacement to solve this problem. SQ engineering also does a blacktop quad adapter, gearbox sealing plate, rear engine hook and possibly more. Very high quality parts and excellent customer service, Sam is highly recommended for 4age, beams and other parts. Check out his site here : http://www.sq-engineering.com/ Kit uses standard AE86 rubber mounts Full kit Block mounts 25mm crossmember spacers with longer high tensile bolts Gearbox crossmember to suit W58 or 6 speed Complete bolt kit $320 PICTURES HERE > Expect to cut a decent hole for the 6 speed, the RA60 W58 gearbox brings the shifter out the original shifter hole with no cutting involved. Edited February 18, 2016 by Jordanrolla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted September 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) EVO 4 - 9 4G63 kits These are now available 4G63 + W58 with a Bill Hincher bellhousing kit from the U.S - http://www.billsautofab.com/ ^^^ This gearbox crossmember is quality ;) So a full kit, Block mounts Rubber mounts 20mm crossmember spacers Longer high tensile bolt kit Gearbox crossmember (quality) and a complete bolt kit including the spacers for the exhaust side for the block. Fitting requirements: Even with the use of 20mm spacers you will still need to do a small simple mod to the rear of the sump, there is about 5mm clearance from the rack and even less with around the drivers side rack mount. The modification will look similar to this (this was the evorolla build) If you are not a big fan of running crossmember spacers or even wanted to downsize to a 10mm spacer, you will have to make this up by either spacing up the bonnet, or ditching the bracing on the underside of the bonnet. Part of me making this a complete bolt in kit is making everything easy. So i couldnt see another alternative other than the crossmember spacers. Other suggestions is that the only part hitting the bonnet is the very top of the cam cover so you could even ditch the front cam gear cover and grind some alloy off the cam cover itself. It will look better but the boys in blue may not agree. Price is $350 3SGTE into AE86 mounting kits available - keeping that toyota, toyota. There will be alot of custom work for the 3sgte being a factory fwd, but to get this engine mounted you will need to make a small mod to the sump for clearance where the drivers side rack mount is and that is about it. No crossmember spacers required. Full kit: Block mounts Rubber mounts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Engine mounts are made from 5mm mild steel plate and are fully tig welded Gearbox crossmember is made from 3 and 5mm angle iron and is fully tig welded. Price is $300 1UZFE + W58 into AE86 kits 1UZFE with front sump, auto gearbox beallhousing with adapter plate (in between bell and gearbox) and W58 gearbox Fitting requirements: You need to cut the start of the tunnel to allow for the bellhousing to fit Brake booster does not fit - options are to simply not run a booster and use an adpater from T3 to put yur master straight onto the firewall. You could run a remote booster. Even with the use of 25mm crossmember spacers the bonnet still does not shut - options are to either use a hump on your bonnet, or run another 10 - 20mm more crossmember spacers, or you could modify or custom make a new top half of the inlet manifold to get the required clearance. Using a lower profile manifold with twin throttle body's instead of 1 large throttle would be the go. As it sits is not too far off the firewall in a few places (only 6 - 8mm) so some firewall massaging may be required. The standard clutch master does not fit, but i hear an NG pajero clutch master is a slimmer item and only requires slight notching to fit. On the up side is this kit can be made adjustable to slide further back (any further back will require firewall modification) or i don't know why, but further forward. I have made the gearbox crossmember fully adjustable but the engine mounts are in a set position, you can easily slot them out. (note gearbox crossmember pictured is a prototype, i am getting a batch of 1 piece laser cut and bent crossmembers made within a couple of weeks) Standard swaybar fits only just The sump is only a few mm lower than the crossmember Plenty of room for extractors/turbo manifolds A slim radiator should fit on the inside of the engine bay. Full kit: Block mounts - 5mm plate, tig welded Rubber mounts 25mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolts Adjustable gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit Price $350 1JZ/2JZ into AE86 kits Sick of that tinny buzz box sound of your 4age? well look no further this is the kit for you! Best of all this conversion is legal! (best to confirm with your engineer first though) Here is some inspiration : Surprisingly it fits a bit better than the KE70 (can get it further back with more room up front). The AE86 has a shorter engine bay height wise but a little longer, so there will be 20mm crossmember spacers supplied in the kit. I have done this conversion using a W58, the gearbox crossmember is adjustable so it should easily suit the R154 also. There will be some slight tunnel bashing for clearance for the bellhousing and a small amount for the back of the head. The metal water pipe that runs around the back of the head will have to be relocated, suggest a custom one running underneath the engine to the other side. If you plan on using a 2jz, don't expect your bonnet to close with the 20mm spacers. You will need to space your crossmember further or go a custom bonnet hump. Full kit: Block mounts Rubber mounts 20mm crossmember spacers + longer high tensile bolts Gearbox crossmember Complete bolt kit $350 CA18 into RA65/ST141 celica corona So from what ive heard the floorpans are the same for the celica and corona, will update this once its confirmed CA18 into RA65 kits Fitting requirements: For some strange reason toyota decided to have the fuel and brake line crossover right where the shifter will come out so these 2 lines will have to be bent out of the way so you can make a new shifter hole. Highly reccomended you use the RB/CA gearbox combo to gain 50mm shifter clearance as the shifter is a good distance back from the factory hole. The factory turbo being so far back doesnt allow for much room for the dump pipe - fixes - track car? just beat the f*&% out of the firewall, street car? replace the turbo or manifold with something better. Other than these problems its not a bad little fit and would be a cheap conversion to pull off. Full kit: Block mounts Rubber mounts Rubber mount adaptor plates Gearbox crossmember Full bolt kit $350 SR20 into RA65 kits Fitting requirements: For some strange reason toyota decided to have the fuel and brake line crossover right where the shifter will come out so these 2 lines will have to be bent out of the way so you can make a new shifter hole. Highly recommended you use the RB/SR gearbox combo to gain 50mm shifter clearance as the shifter is a good distance back from the factory hole. The factory turbo being so far back doesnt allow for much room for the dump pipe - fixes - track car? just beat the f*&% out of the firewall, street car? replace the turbo or manifold with something better. With the S14 engine, the inlet manifold needs a mounting tab cut off to get a bit of clearance for the clutch master cylinder. If using a power steering rack, the lines on the rack are close but they do clear. Recommended that you simply bend the mounting tabs to get a little more clearance, this can easily be done with a pair of pliers. Non power steering rack will not have this problem. The engine sits pretty far back, it is all alloy engine so id expect this to produce a very well balanced car, ideal for track/drift. Full kit: Block mounts Rubber mounts Rubber mount adaptors Gearbox crossmember Full bolt kit $350 Edited April 14, 2014 by Jordanrolla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high-rolla-corolla Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 With the 4g63t in the ke30 is it the same set up as u did on the ke70 and are u able to make ruber engine mounts for engineering? I'm looking at doing the 4g63t in ke30 with a general motors t56 gearbox with belhousing adapter I found a place that does the kit and everything I wil need to have everything bolt to motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I haven't done a 4G63 kit for the ke30 / ke55 yet but it will be the same style of mounts. All my kits use rubber mounts and designed to pass engineering so long as your engineer will pass your particular engine and vehicle combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Who are you getting the T56 > 4G kit off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high-rolla-corolla Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 This is the page I found its not cheap but its quality here is the link http://speedwhore.weebly.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high-rolla-corolla Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Just click on 4g63 rwd conversions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted October 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Bill hincher bellhousing's are quality, affordable too. Looking at getting myself a T56 kit in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neirbokcin Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hey mate can u pm me after sr20det into ke70 kit. Also do u hqve a gearbox mount to suit a rb25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanrolla Posted November 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Added 3SGTE into KE70 kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanesykes56 Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 If u do a 12a/13bto ke30 plz let me know asap as I am looking at doing that but seeing the ca18det kit is tempting or the evo to ke as well great work btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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