Ae82 Options 1986 4ac Corolla Cs-x Seca

[openflame06]

Hey everyone.

 

I've searched the forum and seen a few people ask this but normally with specific engines. I was wondering what my options are for swapping out my 4AC for something else and what work is required.

 

Just wondering as well what the legalities of it would be, everyone is telling me different things. I've read the RTA guides but I can imagine they arent too descriptive.

 

So i guess basically i need to know what other engines I can put in my car and what the cheapest option is. Easy isnt really an issue, its more about keeping the costs down.

 

Oh also its front wheel drive.

 

Thanks.

Edited April 22, 2009 by openflame06

[towe001]

FWD ?!?

:hmm: and here i thought the ae82 was a four wheel drive all terrain terror tot.

 

But getting back to it the cheapest and easiest engine conversion would be the 4a-fc (twin cam carby motor)- couple of extra inches on the exhaust pipe after the manifold cause of the x-flow head design and your pretty well set to go. With a few extra killer ponies.

Next up would be either the 4a-fe (twin cam EFI) or 4a-ge series (twin cam but with a different head design EFI) and both of these would need the extra length in the exhaust as well and the computer to go with them.

In both cases of using a 4a motor is that you can still use the standard gearbox and driveshafts - but it might start getting a little iffy behind the more powerful 4a-gze and 20valve motors.

 

Legalities - 4a-f motors i don't think you'll need a mod plate but the 4a-g series i believe you would need one cause of having a big jump in power.

 

Next step up (or some people would say across, cause a turbo 4a-ge can make the same if not more then the non-turbo 3s-ge) is the 3s-ge and 3s-gte (2litre twin cam EFI and turbo version) lot of work with hammer, angle grinder and welder. Will have to be mod plated. Cause of engine and gearbox mounts, having to use custom made driveshafts and suspension (maybe) and brake upgrades.

 

Or something from the Nissan stable - don't know much about it but more then likely hammer, grinder and welder work so it'll be mod plated too cause of same reasons as above..

 

 

From what i know with the legal stuff is that if you make a good step up in power it'll have to be mod plated and the same with bringing a hammer, grinder and welder into the equation will mean a mod plate will have to be forth coming.

 

When i had my old '82 seca i was thinking of a v6 from a camry. Had the feeling that it'd just fit but never really got a chance to measure up a motor and gearbox for a fit to the '82's bay.

But once again - mod plated cause of said tools and customizing.

 

My best thought would be write down what your planning on doing and go find an RTA approved engineer and have a chat to find out whats good and whats bad with your plans

[openflame06]

Yeah the twin carby sounds good, but then I figure if i'm going to the trouble of doing it why not the AGE but ive heard that I will need to change all the brakes as well on the 4AGE i don't mind having to wire the looms and stuff but i figure bigger brakes = more moneys that i don't really have to spare unfortunately.

[towe001]

:hmm: no no not twin carbies, twin cam as in two cams not one cam as used in the 4a-c

 

and the bigger brakes isn't all that hard - AE82 twincam version used bigger front brakes and also used disc brakes on the back as well

have a bit of a search on the forum. ToyMods - http://www.toymods.net/forums/ has a write of it, it is for the later ae92 but still usable on the ae82.