colscat Posted September 2, 2011 Report Posted September 2, 2011 Could anyone tell me what wheel hp. would you expect from a fwd. 20 valve black top. engine is non modified.? Quote
Chillin Posted September 2, 2011 Report Posted September 2, 2011 Could anyone tell me what wheel hp. would you expect from a fwd. 20 valve black top. engine is non modified.? Fifth Generation "Black Top" The fifth-generation 4A-GE engine produced from 1995 to 1998 is the final version of the 4A-GE engine and has black cam covers. This engine is commonly known as the "black top" due to the color of the valve cover, and yet again features an even higher compression ratio (11:1), the air flow sensor is replaced with a MAP sensor, the diameter of the four individual throttle bodies was increased from 42 mm to 45 mm, the exhaust port diameter was increased, the intake cam lift was increased from 7.9 mm to 8.2 mm and the intake ports were significantly improved in shape, contour and also the width at opening at the head was increased. Additionally, the black top had a lighter flywheel, a larger plenum, and revised rubber velocity stacks, and was also offered in 1997 with a six-speed C160 transaxle. This revision increased the power to 165 PS (121 kW) at 7,800 rpm with 16.5 kg·m (119 ft·lbf) of torque at 5,600 rpm. These figures were issued by Toyota and are considered optimistic. It is assumed that Toyota ran the motor without ancillaries to inflate the power ratings, as some companies did before the adoption of the SAE J1349 rating standards in 2005. Still, the 'Blacktop' has become a favorite among enthusiasts and is used as an easy power upgrade for the early Toyota Corolla models, especially for use in the drift scene. Squeezing extra power from such a highly strung N/A engine can be expensive because of the relatively high state of tuning of the stock motor, and most gains come from higher lift cams and engine management. Google it before you ask, may contain your answer. Quote
colscat Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Posted September 3, 2011 Google it before you ask, may contain your answer. Thanks ,yes i have read those spec . my question was to any one who has dyno figures for real hp at the front wheels of a black 20 valve. Quote
Sloth Posted September 3, 2011 Report Posted September 3, 2011 If you search around peoples build threads etc you'll probably find one, but most likely it will be modified in some way (velocity stack etc). The figures quoted by Toyota are usually a little... generious. My RWD silvertop made 68RWKW when it was in my 86... so you'd hope for something between that and the qouted 121KW Quote
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