ok yea i have gone the hard option and i have put a vr commodore and auto in mine which unfortunatly has a CAS which i have been told is a different wiring loom alltogether lol i am unsure if this is fact though, however i was just wondering what type of wiring loom you used for you corolla, did u fabricate one up from scratch or did you piggyback a vn one and cut the bits you didnt need out of it.. I am at the stage where i either need to go and buy another loom out of a vr or i try and attempt to make my own. thanks for your help :y: