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Hi there,

 

I am picking up a 20 valve ST very shortly and it still has the box attached.

 

Just wondered which model the box is, is it C56, C52, etc?? I have no idea with these models.

 

Thanks

 

Luke

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first gen ST = C52

second gen ST = C56

 

is a halfcut or is it an engine package?

 

Thanks for the info.

 

It's part of an engine package, loom is there, no ecu, gearbox is there, etc etc.

 

That's all I need anyway as I have to go aftermarket ECU as I am changing to RWD format for my AE.

Posted
going for an aftermarket ecu isnt a required item for doing the rwd conversion, but if you chasing more power it is

 

From what I have read, and believe me when I say I have done alot of research, is that you will have to purchase a DLI converter to make things work in a RWD application. Not to mention the fact that the ST is AFM and I will not be using an Airbox (using quads with tube stacks instead). I would not be able to run the ST ECU without an AFM. I could have gotten a BT motor and used the MAP Sensor and DLI kit and this would have worked however I added up the costs and it outweighed the cost of buying a ST and aftermarket computer.

 

BT = $1800 plus DLI = $500 = $2300

 

ST = $800 (that's what I found one for) + ECU = $1500 = $2300.

 

So I will end up spending the same amount of money but tuneability and upgrades later down the track will be far easier.

 

Sorry for the ranting, just wanted to clear things up.

 

If I am still wrong please help, because I am still gathering parts to make this all work and am trying (as always) to keep costs to a minimum.

Posted

i thought you were doing just a straight up 20v into an *e7*, that why i said you could use the standard ecu, and now that you have outlined a little further what you are doing, with the motor, it is easier to understand why you are going with an aftermarket ecu.

 

i personally i would have gone with the BT from the start (but thats just me)

 

http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=18900 << guessing you have read this from club4ag

Posted (edited)

Cheers for that.

 

That link though pretty much argues to and fro about the DLI converters and at the end of the day they are expensive and don't offer the extra performance ability down the track.

 

Thanks for your help, much appreciated. So much to learn about this conversion, just can't wait to actually be driving it, very excited. :hmm:

 

I seem to recall though that you have posted somewhere else that BT is not as strong internally as ST. This is why I have chosen ST not to mention the cost of the one I found. :no2:

Edited by LukeAE71
Posted

yes i did, but then again i know of more BT's tossing rods than anything else in the 4a series, but then it could be just that more people were crying over the fact they killed the BT, so who knows

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