gjblade Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 (edited) i know i know not the best of conversions but I'm wanting a good project for me and the boy. wanting to know if i can put a 4afe into maybe a 70 series starlet as i believe these are the first of the starlet to be fwd and wanting to do this as i picked up the complete 4efa except for sump has -complete loom-ecu-excellent cond engine-alt-starter-powersteer pump-exhuast manifold. for $20 not wanting to rush with these as he is a few years off driving yet and i like the starlet look. can it be done and what troubles wood i be running into doing this? any help will be grateful Edited February 16, 2010 by gjblade Quote
AE25 Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 yes has been done over here. but using 4age and 4age turbo. but similar conversion applies. have you google'd it? i know of a guy Stu that has a blue ep71 with 4agte 195kw on 16psi. a quick search found this.. but further searching I'm sure you'll find info. http://www.oldschool.co.nz/phpbb/viewtopic...=500739#p500739 plenty of info on those gt starlet forums Quote
gjblade Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Posted February 16, 2010 yes has been done over here. but using 4age and 4age turbo. but similar conversion applies. have you google'd it? i know of a guy Stu that has a blue ep71 with 4agte 195kw on 16psi. a quick search found this.. but further searching I'm sure you'll find info. http://www.oldschool.co.nz/phpbb/viewtopic...=500739#p500739 plenty of info on those gt starlet forums yes but not to much as googling at 2am not so good. yes may look into a 4age and a kp60 or kp61. but for now will stick to my $20 engine to learn and play with. own an old toyota awhile ago but not to much knowledge on starlets yet. love the rwd starlets but don't like the sprinters or levins the 4afe is from either that or fit to a buggy i saw on google. anone else done this and what clearance issues should i expect and or modded parts? Quote
towe001 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Posted February 17, 2010 anone else done this and what clearance issues should i expect and or modded parts? Right off the top of my head - dizzy location. Its at the back of the head which means it'll be angled towards the firewall. Next one is engine mounts - the 4afc that i had, had the bosses for where the mounts get bolted onto the block but they hadn't been drilled and tapped. So my guess would be that it'd be the same with the 4afe. Still have the thing so i can take photos if your not sure what i mean. Quote
gjblade Posted February 18, 2010 Author Report Posted February 18, 2010 Right off the top of my head - dizzy location. Its at the back of the head which means it'll be angled towards the firewall.Next one is engine mounts - the 4afc that i had, had the bosses for where the mounts get bolted onto the block but they hadn't been drilled and tapped. So my guess would be that it'd be the same with the 4afe. Still have the thing so i can take photos if your not sure what i mean. so holes were there just not taper and die then. relocate dizzy shouldnt be to hard is it? Quote
towe001 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Posted February 18, 2010 No holes just the boss thing or what ever their called. Might be able to get away with a 4a-c block and move the whole 4a-fe kit and caboodle over (crank, pistons, head, etc etc) Dizzy relocation :hmm: about 50 bucks for a quality hammer to modify the firewall. Suzisport here in Australia makes an "Angle Drive Kit" for the dizzy on the g13b twin cam from the swift gti so the motor can be fitted into the serria about $400 for the adaptor, it'll you give a bit of an idea on what to expect. Another idea is modifying the dizzy or do away with it altogether and run a crank angle sensor which would also mean a computer change or at least adding in a "little black box" to modify the signal from the sensor for the computer to read and fire the plugs. But its one idea that i'm not all that learned up on. But i wouldn't expect any change from $600 maybe even still have to fork out more. All in all it'll be easier to go for the 4ag Quote
gjblade Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Posted February 19, 2010 No holes just the boss thing or what ever their called. Might be able to get away with a 4a-c block and move the whole 4a-fe kit and caboodle over (crank, pistons, head, etc etc)Dizzy relocation :hmm: about 50 bucks for a quality hammer to modify the firewall. Suzisport here in Australia makes an "Angle Drive Kit" for the dizzy on the g13b twin cam from the swift gti so the motor can be fitted into the serria about $400 for the adaptor, it'll you give a bit of an idea on what to expect. Another idea is modifying the dizzy or do away with it altogether and run a crank angle sensor which would also mean a computer change or at least adding in a "little black box" to modify the signal from the sensor for the computer to read and fire the plugs. But its one idea that i'm not all that learned up on. But i wouldn't expect any change from $600 maybe even still have to fork out more. All in all it'll be easier to go for the 4ag will work on this but will go for the 4age or 4agze into a kp 60-kp61 starlet. Quote
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