You will like this one:-
1st, I had a week long discussion with a QLD transport inspector on engine conversions.
My question:- My car is pre unleaded <'86, they want me to fit a cat and unleaded filler because my engine is post unleaded >'86.
Well, I have a 1983 block, 1989 pistons and 1992 head, what is my engine??
The reply:- Send us the details and we will asses the engine.
What does that mean? what is a >'86 engine? Is it the block? is it the internals or the head?
They couldnt tell me.
My car with a 4AG will beat any pollution requirements for the year of manufacture of my vehicle without a cat, (and 86kw 4AG runs on super by the way).
So, I can keep driving a smoky 4AC and kill trees, or put a clean motor in it and spend $$$ putting in a cat?
Where is the logic?
Why put in an unleaded fuel filler, when leaded fuel was banned from sale in Australia several years ago!?!?
Like reading?
Here is the text:-
Hi Sam
Thankyou for your email regarding the fitment of a fuel injected engine.
While you have a strong argument there are certain requirements that must
be met for replacement engines. It is required that all emission equipment
that was used for the EFI engine must be transferred over to your vehicle
which has received the donor engine. The emissions for your vehicle must
meet the applicable Australian Design Rules for the replacement engine or
the vehicle's date of manufacture (which ever build date is newer is the
ADR you must comply with). I would like to comment on whether or not your
vehicle would require the modifications you mentioned in your email,
however you have supplied us with no information regarding the engine or
vehicle in question. If you would like a more accurate reply you will be
required to supply us with all the relevant information as the
requirements for engine substitution may vary in certain applications,
without this information i am mot willing to give you a definite "yes" or
"no" answer. Having said this the engineers who have authority to approve
such modifications have in their possession the code of practice for
engine modifications which has the guidelines to which they must follow to
give such approvals. Please do not hesitate to contact us with more
information regarding your vehicle to allow us to find a more accurate
reply.
Regards
Stuart Burns
Asst Policy Advisor
Land Transport & Safety
Queensland Transport
Hi Sam
Thank you for the additional information you have provided regarding your
engine conversion. Regarding the modifications rules you refer to, there
are a set of modification codes outlined in the Code of Practice Light
Motor Vehicles (COP). Within this COP are guidelines regarding the
conversion and modification of motor vehicles such as the modifications
and vehicle that you have supplied details about. These modification
guidelines are uniform for both passenger cars and light commercial
vehicles of the type you describe.
There are differences in the Australiand Design Rules (ADRs) requirements
for some passenger car and light commercial vehicles.
As mentioned in the previous email the engine you stipulated will have to
remain compliant with the emission requirements it was designed to meet or
if the vehicle is later model (younger) than the engine then the engine
must be bought up to meet the standards the vehicle was originally
designed to meet. Your Approved Person (AP) may require verification of
this engine model and construction date to ensure it meets the
requirements. Please note that once a supercharger and/or aftermarket
engine management system is fitted to an engine, proof of continued
compliance with the required ADRs will be expected. This may require full
emissions testing to be performed to prove compliance. For full details
of the required testing procedure please talk to your AP for a copy of the
relevant ADR. It is suggested you keep these details for future
reference.
If both the vehicle and the engine were built to operate without a
catalytic convertor and remain compliant with emission requirements then
fitting one may not be a requirement. Queensland Transport is willing to
accept this vehicle without an unleaded fuel filler.
As you may already realise the fitment of a supercharger may not increase
efficiency. The increase in dynamic compression created by force feeding
extra air into the cylinders may have an undesired effect of increasing
emissions, such as Hydrocarbons and NOx. Manufacturers of engines, design
complex engine functions such as this by taking into account a number of
associated factors including efficiency design of camshaft profiles,
injector- type, size and positioning and combustion chamber shape, to name
a few. While some professionally designed and comprehensively tested
aftermarket turbocharger and supercharger systems may continue to meet the
emissions requirements designed into the original vehicle it can not be
assumed that your application will automatically do so. To ensure your
modifications do, testing will be required. This is why consulting with
an AP before proceeding to modify your car will ensure your vehicle will
remain compliant with all legislative requirements.
It is commendable that you have already approached an engineer about the
design of your braking system and we would like to encourage you to do so
with all proposed modifications you would like to perform.
In order to have your vehicle approved it will now be necessary for you to
contact an Approved Person to consult with you regarding this vehicle and
it's susequent compliance approval. If you would like details of Approved
Persons nearest to you please feel free to call me for further details.
For further correspondance or advice on any issues regarding your
vehicle's compliance and approval please contact your AP.
Regards
Stuart Burns
Asst Policy Advisor
Land Transport & Safety
Queensland Transport
Hi Sam,
Thankyou for your reply regarding the emissions testing of your vehicle.
Due to the large number of different engine combinations and subsequent
ADR emissions requirements and given the amount of correspondence required
to clarify these individual situations we require specific information on
your vehicle. This will include exact modifications that have been
performed to your engine, taking into consideration if the engine has been
modified with various components of different build dates. The resultant
answer will be based on the specific information you provide for that
specific engine and will likely change if you perform other or subsequent
modifications.
I recommend you either complete an application form and detail the exact
components and modifications you wish to carry out, and have our engineer
assess the situation. *Please note, there may be a fee for this service as
we are not a consultancy business, this is why Queensland Transport has
the approved person scheme.
or
Contact one of our approved person engineers who will consult with you to
advise you on the legalities of your vehicle, and whether or not your
vehicle still complies with the Australian Design Rules. These engineers
may also be able to assist you in arranging an emissions test. (List of
approved engineers at bottom of this email).
Alternatively you can contact this department during normal operating
business hours and speak with one of our engineers.
Regards
Stuart Burns
Asst Policy Advisor
Land Transport & Safety
Queensland Transport
It seams that the Government requires all questions to be answered with questions to make it look like someone has a clue!
Also as far as I am aware, comercial vehicles (ie panelvans, vans and utes) have different modification rules, you can construct your own comercial vehicle under the 'Individually constructed vehilce) scheme and be exept from crash tests etc.
Sam