gravebox Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 Hey Guys! i've been a rolla fan, amongst other toyota models, for some time now. i've got some "playing" plans i'd like to get going on... my problem is, i can't seem to find the model code for the transmission used for the older 4WD corollas. my suspicions lead me to believe that it's either the R150F or R151F but i haven't been able to confirm this. was wondering if anyone here could tell me what model code it is and it's gear ratios? i've been searching for a while now and can't find anything. even went down to several shops to see if they were able to supply me with a model code but can't get anything other then a part number. thanks for the help in advance! Quote
MYSTIK[RL] Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 do you mean the 4wd wagons? if so i do believe its an E5x series gearbox Quote
Hiro Protagonist Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 Hey Guys! i've been a rolla fan, amongst other toyota models, for some time now. i've got some "playing" plans i'd like to get going on... my problem is, i can't seem to find the model code for the transmission used for the older 4WD corollas. my suspicions lead me to believe that it's either the R150F or R151F but i haven't been able to confirm this. was wondering if anyone here could tell me what model code it is and it's gear ratios? i've been searching for a while now and can't find anything. even went down to several shops to see if they were able to supply me with a model code but can't get anything other then a part number. thanks for the help in advance! R15x is a longitudinal-style gearbox, like for a Hilux or turbo JZA71 Supra. The AE95 is a transverse engine/gearbox do you mean the 4wd wagons? if so i do believe its an E5x series gearbox From what I can remember, it's a S51 (according to the Ellerys/Gregories/Haynes/whatever service manual) Quote
gravebox Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Posted October 27, 2008 wasn't the S51 i know that... most of the S5X series were used for earlier Camry, MR2, Solara and Celica models apparently. though i find even what i just mentioned to be a bit off seeing as most of the Camrys, MR2s and Celicas i've dealt with have had C and E series transmissions... as for the E series, last I knew, if it had anything to do with 4WD operation, it was all wheel drive all the time. for example the E50F, E150F, E151F, E152F and so on with the non-F series being front wheel drive only. this is where I'm getting stumped at... cause the tranny I'm looking for is controllable between 2wd and 4wd rather then just AWD all the time. but yes, I'm talking about the Wagon corolla, the earliest form of the Altrac before it turned into full time AWD. I really don't want to resort to getting a E15XF series, damn things have way too much grinding issues due to the poorly designed syncro mechanics in them. Quote
Hiro Protagonist Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 wasn't the S51 i know that... most of the S5X series were used for earlier Camry, MR2, Solara and Celica models apparently. though i find even what i just mentioned to be a bit off seeing as most of the Camrys, MR2s and Celicas i've dealt with have had C and E series transmissions... I'll check tonight, for some reason the S51 is sticking in my head....maybe it's an E51. V6 Camrys have the E-series gearboxes, as do turbo SW20 MR2s and most likely GT4 Celicas. The only Celicas and MR2s that would have come with a C-series box would be the ones powered by A-series engines (4AFE, 4AGE, 7AFE) this is where I'm getting stumped at... cause the tranny I'm looking for is controllable between 2wd and 4wd rather then just AWD all the time. but yes, I'm talking about the Wagon corolla, the earliest form of the Altrac before it turned into full time AWD. I really don't want to resort to getting a E15XF series, damn things have way too much grinding issues due to the poorly designed syncro mechanics in them. Do you mean the AL25 wagon? If so, it's a Tercel, not a Corolla, which can cause you no end of confusion. The AE95 Corolla wagon is full-time 4WD, but with a lockable centre diff. The AL25 is part-time 4WD, with it being FWD unless the transfer case is locked (no centre diff). AL25 AE95 Quote
Hiro Protagonist Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 After a bit of digging through Tercel4WD.com (they have the 1985 AL25 service manual there), the gearbox for a 4WD AL25 is a Z54F, or A55F for the auto. Never heard of either of them before, and that's probably because for both the FWD and 4WD models, the engine is longitudinally mounted yet the gearbox normally drives the front wheels only. Stupid set-up in my opinion, but then again the AL25s were always regarded as being weird over here. Quote
gravebox Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Posted October 28, 2008 yep, it's the tercel then. i know that box wagon... just did a checkup on the Z54F, i can't find hardly jack about it... *15 minutes later* and now i know why... apparently the Z52F and Z54F trannys can't hold power worth crap from what some say while other's say differently. the G58, R150F and R151F are pretty much direct replacements for it. V6 Camrys have the E-series gearboxes, as do turbo SW20 MR2s and most likely GT4 Celicas. The only Celicas and MR2s that would have come with a C-series box would be the ones powered by A-series engines (4AFE, 4AGE, 7AFE) almost, forgetting the 1ZZFE, 2ZZGE, 2AZFE, 1NZFE, 2NZFE... anything A series, NZ series, ZZ series, ZR series, SZ series and so on... C series on countless numbers of engine families. right now if i can't seem to find the right tranny, i'm either going to have to deal with an E15XF series or use a C59, C60, E350 or E351 and stay FWD... *stumps on floor* BUT I DON' WANA! :) i'd go for one of the RXXXF trannys, but that's a huge sacrifice on top end... i want to stay at least at my stock 133 gear limited or rather be around 145-160. so far the only trannys are the trannys i listed above *E15XF series, C59, C60, E350 or E351*. Quote
Hiro Protagonist Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 almost, forgetting the 1ZZFE, 2ZZGE, 2AZFE, 1NZFE, 2NZFE... anything A series, NZ series, ZZ series, ZR series, SZ series and so on... C series on countless numbers of engine families. And in Australia, we only got C-series gearboxes in Corollas, Echo/Yaris/Starlets and AW11s. *hang on, forgot the ZZT23x Celica (we only got the 2ZZGE variant) and ZZW3x MR2 (1ZZFE with sequential only). Australia missed out on lots of the low-spec Jap models for Camrys/Celicas etc. Quote
Hiro Protagonist Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Double-checked, the AE95 gearbox is indeed an E57F, main reason I got confused is that the S50 is listed with the other gearboxes (C40, C50, C52), but the 4WD stuff is in a separate section at the end of the manual.....so the S50 is most likely for the diesel model Quote
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