KErolla Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) lol sorry guys i just realised what i put up as the topic (rs20det) lol my bad its ment 2 be (sr20det) ok i have gathered as mutch as most off u guys on this fourm would go with the sr20det. just wondering wt that pros and cons of both the ca18det or sr20det are . and was wondering with is the beter one 2 to be droping in a ke30 . cos i was thinking of the ca18det and then i spent most of this morning reading the fourm about the uther ppls on this fourm and doing the sr20det in the ke55 and ke70 and was woking out that the sr20det might be the better way 2 go . but am intrested too see what you guys think thanks wild.ke Edited October 20, 2005 by KErolla
Super Jamie Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) which is the "better" motor depends on who you talk to, and what your purpose is. this is just from what i have gathered, talking to many sources, it's a conversion i considered myself at one stage the CA18 seems to be constructed better, like it's is able to be held on the limit for longer without breaking. they're substantially cheaper, wether you buy a whole frontcut or just an engine. from what i have heard, changing of the intake lengths (when you install them in a non-S13 car) confuses the factory computer so they can have idle problems. this can be resolved by an aftermarket computer the SR20 is not as strongly built, hold one on the limiter and you will break it. they're also more expensive, so it really depends on the budget of your project. the SR makes more power, there's no denying it. the extra torque and capacity is noticeable, they're alot more driveable throughout the rev range when you're pushing them hard, unlike the CA which needs to be held at fairly high revs when you're driving the car on the limit you certainly can spend the money on a CA and get it to make more power than a stock SR, with little to no reduction in reliability. but it would probably work out about the same price to just put an SR in anyway. from what i have seen you can make about 200kw at the wheels out of an SR20DET with a stock bottom end before you start breaking things fairly regularly. i would expect probably 200hp at the wheels out of a CA18DET either way, it's a 900kg corolla, even a stock CA is going to make it absolutely haul ass and run 13s, never mind a modified 2L turbo motor with 200kw at the wheels and potential to run 11s one thing you may not have considered is a toyota 3S-GTE. there is no denying this is the king of 2 litre engines, in fact, i believe we've already had a thread about this. an SR with the best head porting money can buy, still only flows about 90% as well as a stock 3S-G head. that being said, they're not f@$king cheap at all, but you get what you pay for. there are also bugger all TRD parts for them, everything seems to be HKS or JE or other aftermarket tuning houses if you just want a cheap quick corolla, drop a CA in and be done with it. if you have experience driving powerful cars and you think you can actually put down 200kw at the treads, spend the extra cash and get an SR. if you really want to make the best car possible and money is no object, forget nissan altogether and buy yourself a real man's toyota motor, 3S-GTE or bust :thumbsup: Edited October 20, 2005 by Super Jamie
Super Jamie Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 here are some more topics (with links to other topics) you may find useful http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?showtopic=1889 - sr into ke55 http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?showtopic=3265 - sr20det vs 1g-gte
KErolla Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Posted October 20, 2005 ther the topics i was reading lol as for the power not being an isssue i have been driving my cosans vl its off its nut its got 400kw at the treads (has anny 1 seen the camilion vl with the plates [sicpsi] ) thats his i have been for a spin in that a couple times and i sh1t my self the fist couple times but after i got ust 2 driving it i was fine. but ther would be bit off diferance in a vl 2 a sr20det ke30 i no of what money will be neaded 2 do the project and it will all come in time. so in the long run u saying the 3sgte would be the better way 2 go how mutch do thes go for ???? but I'm manly intrested in building a sr20 or ca18 i understand were u coming from with the 3sgte. so in uther words u would go with the ca18 if u had the money if i had 2 chouse the ca18 or sr20 .
Super Jamie Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 for prices, buy zoom or fast fours and look at importer ads when i was thinking about it, i was going to do CA, because it would be cheaper and certainly fast enough in a little light corolla. i think either is going to be a fairly bloody quick car for you
KErolla Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Posted October 20, 2005 my first opinion was goan be build a ca18det and 1 think I'm gona stay with my choise but i will still be looking in to a sr20 but most probly be building a ca18.
ROLLN'03 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 What are you planning to achieve with this car....? If you want to dRiFT, Personnaly, i would start with something with more potential........ But thats just me....! :thumbsup:
KErolla Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) was goan have a go at drift but i just wanna do sumthing 2 da corolla so wen all theas rice burners in my area try and have a go i will just blow them off cos I'm sik off all theas lil puss box turbo lazers and cordias and and what not. but yes i am gona gave a go at drifting and have a good go at the quater mile 2 cos i have the rolla for 2 years now and i just wannna make it go. my first ambition for it was gona be a 13btpp or 13btep but i decided agenst it but i would still love 2 do it :thumbsup: and the uther reason is that u don't see manny old rollas on da streets anny more and it would be mad 2 have another hot 1 like what some off the members on this fourm have on da street Edited October 20, 2005 by KErolla
Clown Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 from what i've read most people tend to bag the sr20 interms of reliability. Ca18's tend to be stronger but the sr20 has the extra capacity. You pay more for the sr then the ca, but more aftermarket goodies for the sr20 from what i've seen. 160rwkw is about the limit for bottom ends in the ca18det. I'd go with the ca and spend the extra money on goodies for it. If you have to go 2litre go with the 3sgte over sr20det. or prices check out (moderators if mentioning these places is an issue feel free to delete links) Jaustech.com.au justjap.com www.sssautomotive.com.au
Super Jamie Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 there isn't 13B turbo, because it's illegal the biggest you can stick in a KE3x/5x in nsw is a naturally aspirated 12A
KErolla Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Posted October 20, 2005 u serious i dident no that u could only put a 12a in corollas. that suks oh well so i probly will end up going with the ca18det cos all i want is just a bit off power lol. so every 1 pretty much egreys with the ca18det conversion . just bold on sum goodys like turbo and intercooler bov bit off internal work then it would be set . what gear box would be good for it ??
Redwarf Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 English language version please. As per posting rules. Ta.
ROLLN'03 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 I would rather see a toyota engine in a toyota engine bay anyday, than a high HP motor of another sort..... But once again, personal opinion...! :thumbsup: Why not stick with the 4age or 4agze if you only want "a little power"...?
KErolla Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) cos i wana be a little bit diferent as for the 4agze most ppls have them in corollas and i no that ppls have ca18det's in ther rollas but not as manny off them. thats my opinion Edited October 20, 2005 by KErolla
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