love ke70 Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 hey guys, just a bit of an odd question for everyone i guess. but looking at it, i think it will solve an issue i have, but not sure of the repercussions. ok, the basics, this is the TE72 i imported from america, the 2 door sedan it will get the HKS 1g in future, at the moment i want to get it rego'd standard. its been complied, took it for safety inspection the other day, and he picked me for, among other things, a siezed shock, but said, if i wanted to put in my go fast suspension thats all good. even though its adjustable coil overs he did not have an issue, so long as height was right. the setup i had in the last car, was ra65 struts and brakes, with adjustable coilovers and koni yellows, with old school adjustable strut tops. with this setup, and standard LCAs, the best we could get out of it was 1 degree positive camber. so went to stick the suspension in the 2 door today, and as i was stripping it out of the old shell, i looked at the steering arms (ra65 ps arms), and compared them to the corolla arms. and, bare with me here... if you picture the steering arm, and the two bolts that come up into the strut, on the corolla one, if you draw a line across the centre of these, it crosses the centre of the ball joint hole aswell, however on the ra65 one, when you draw the same line across the centre of the holes, it goes behind the balljoint hole. so if you can imagine, what that does is pull the bottom of the strut further in, adding to the shite camber condition. now looking at these, my old man said, theyre on the wrong sides. but theyre not, the stamps say all is as it should be. but, can i swap them? it will bring the bottom of the strut outside the balljoint, instead of inside it, so will give a nicer camber result. the only thing that I'm wondering about is the angle on the hole for the tierod, it would be angled the opposite way, but i don't know if this will be an issue, balljoints are made to move all sorts of directions, so who can enlighten me as to why i can't do this? obviously steering stop bolt can just be run in from the other side. thoughts and opinions? if you have made it this far i thank you already! haha cheers, andy Quote
SLO-030 Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 We tried this in Greenmac80's KE30 with MX62 struts and RA65 steering arms. It ended up putting the balljoints and tie rod ends on a shithouse angle... Quote
love ke70 Posted April 10, 2011 Author Report Posted April 10, 2011 okie dokie, thanks for that once i get all the steering back together (replacing steering idler and tie rod end) i might have a look and see what happens, i wonder what would happen if i got some of the angle milled out of them... Quote
19914afc Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 hmmm, I did a similar conversion on my T18 and I used techno toy tuning steering arms and it worked fine. The positive camber could also be due to the angle of the stub axle, with mine I put in XT130LCA's and had max camber set on T3 camber tops and only got 1.5deg where normally would have been close to 3 deg, maybe more. Quote
love ke70 Posted April 10, 2011 Author Report Posted April 10, 2011 pics for anyone still playing at home :) more can be found at: http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/arowland2/steering%20arms/ Quote
love ke70 Posted April 10, 2011 Author Report Posted April 10, 2011 mmm, T3 is interesting, i dunno how much i can use of their gear and keep it street legal, still needs to be engineered you see... have you got info on those steering arms? what was the strut bolt spacing? and the distance from balljoint to balljoint? or a link? and yeah, i know the stub axle angle doesnt help with the RA65 gear, i will prob go with the XT130 gear, but wanna see if i can do this, to save the need, or to not have to have the top pulled in so tight on the adjustable tops... cheers, andy Quote
SLO-030 Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 Can't have a local suspension joint tweak/bend the bottom of the struts? What setup are you running on the 65 struts? There are a few sets of XT130 struts for sale up in QLD in Toymods.. Quote
love ke70 Posted April 10, 2011 Author Report Posted April 10, 2011 just standard 65 brakes, and adjustable coilovers, rate and brand unknown, and koni yellows when i redo the front end, it wont be any celica/corona/sigma crap. the whole lot will be done proper overkill style, probably 4 pots etc. but for now, I'm just making the best of what ive got. not gonna bend struts before roadworthy, or ever for that matter :P Quote
19914afc Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 they are actually for ma61 strut but should be the same. I didn't end up using them but pretty sure they where a one off batch just send them a message and ask about them, but they looked like ae86 ones just with bolt spacing to suit celica/supra. Quote
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