Ke30 Conversion Help

[Steelballz]

hi all, I recently got a ke30 and will be restoring the body before I sort out the engine etc, but I like to do my research first before I do anything :)

 

I got the ke30, and the last owner also had a rusty-beyond saving ta22 celice ST there, with the 2t-b engine...1600 vs 1166cc and crossflow engine, hemispherical head design etc so all the right ingredients to get a nice bit of power out of...

 

now the reason I want to put this into the KE is because he was originally going to do this, and offered I can have the full running gear to go with it.

 

 

 

 

now while i am mechanically minded and all, I want to know is this an easy swap, both wiring-wise and propshaft wise...??the mounts seen to be pretty similarily positioned, although I heard the sump is different so I could run into a spot of bother with the subframes?i have the celica subframe to take too so i'm not too worried about that though.

also, would it be wise to use the celica back axle with the engine and gearbox combo aswell, or use the probably old and weak 3k diff/axle?

 

 

 

many thanks to any replies peeps,

regards,

Nicky

[parrot]

Have a look around the rides thread, and also a search in the tech sections.

 

There are a few KE3x's with 2TG's which are the same conversion essentially.

 

People on here from Australia are likely to tell you to put a 5k or 7K in it, but I suspect they are not available in the UK.

 

I had a reasonably hot 2T with twin 40 DCOE's in a TA22 and it went like a cut cat!

 

Edit: You will need the celica back axle, but it is probably coil sprung rather than leaf sprung, which will require some modification.

 

Look on 3TCgarage.com also. They are big on modifying this engine in the US whereas most people in Australia go with 2TG's or 3TG hybrids. The US got your chassis with T engines as standard, so a good source of spare parts such as crossmembers, tailshafts etc cheaply.

Edited May 7, 2011 by parrot

[Steelballz]

Have a look around the rides thread, and also a search in the tech sections.

 

There are a few KE3x's with 2TG's which are the same conversion essentially.

 

People on here from Australia are likely to tell you to put a 5k or 7K in it, but I suspect they are not available in the UK.

 

I had a reasonably hot 2T with twin 40 DCOE's in a TA22 and it went like a cut cat!

 

Edit: You will need the celica back axle, but it is probably coil sprung rather than leaf sprung, which will require some modification.

 

Look on 3TCgarage.com also. They are big on modifying this engine in the US whereas most people in Australia go with 2TG's or 3TG hybrids. The US got your chassis with T engines as standard, so a good source of spare parts such as crossmembers, tailshafts etc cheaply.

 

there aren't much engines available in ireland for any old toyota's, and the 2t-b is available from the guy who I got the ke30 off, so for 105bhp why not? :)

 

i never checked the celica axle before I left.if its leaf spring, easy to fit, if its coil spring then some mods to do, but easy to fit coilovers ;)

 

there is a full ta22 there, so I can take as much parts as needed for the conversion, i just need to know what I need foirst.but how you wrote that message, I might aswell take the FULL running gear and adapt it into the KE, be it easy or a bit harder.I don't mind, I am an apprentice mechanic, not too up on the whole carbed engines but I can learn and want to :) only thing with the US is that the currency is stronger against the euro now so parts aren't that cheap anymore, plus shipping will be a god awful killer :(

[parrot]

The running gear will largely bolt in though you will need to modify the TA22 crossmember, or your KE30 crossmember.

 

You will need to modify your pedal box to swap to hydraulic clutch actuation. TA22 pedal box doesn't bolt in. I would think you would need to shorten the tailshaft but check threads as above. At very least you would want to retain the yokes. Very early TA22's had leaf spring rears, but I suspect an ST would have a coil spring rear. In this case you will need to weld in the locating plates etc. The leaf springs locate the axle rather than trailing arms.

 

Coilovers are all well and good on the rear, but remember you are fitting them into a turret designed only to take a damper, without any of the load that a coilover will place on the turret.

[Steelballz]

The running gear will largely bolt in though you will need to modify the TA22 crossmember, or your KE30 crossmember.

 

You will need to modify your pedal box to swap to hydraulic clutch actuation. TA22 pedal box doesn't bolt in. I would think you would need to shorten the tailshaft but check threads as above. At very least you would want to retain the yokes. Very early TA22's had leaf spring rears, but I suspect an ST would have a coil spring rear. In this case you will need to weld in the locating plates etc. The leaf springs locate the axle rather than trailing arms.

 

Coilovers are all well and good on the rear, but remember you are fitting them into a turret designed only to take a damper, without any of the load that a coilover will place on the turret.

 

i read up about the clutch, easy peasy IMO :)

the prop is my main worry, will see how it goes down along the line sure.i tried finding specs on the net and they never really said much about the rear suspension, only the obvious mcpherson fronts :(

i know that, but a good proper welded in strut tower to the chassis, a rear brace and thinking of a full cage too....don't think the coilovers over-stressing the rear of the shell is much of a worry ;)

[Steelballz]

time will tell me how easy the conversion is anyway, was hoping for a full answer from the site though lol