Front Suspension Setup

[Super Jamie]

hmm, i have some aussie ae86 struts minus inserts and springs too... hello front brake upgrade :P i wish. find out about that control arm thing. have a look at one of the boys' ke70 too, see if they're the same control arms cos i can get ke70 arms for nothing

[demuire]

ke30 control arms in ke20. ben, you own both cars, see if this is a bolt up possibility? then you'll have control arms with 14mm balljoint, then you could use ae86 p/s arms with xt130 struts (like fook did in pinky) or even ae86 adjustables which you should be able to buy pre-made if option magazine is anything to go by

 

In Pinky I had XT130 struts with XT130 steering arms. In Hal I have RT132 struts (identical to XT130) with AE86 p/s arms.

 

you could use anything with 14mm balljoint thread really, i think you can get control arms bushed so they bolt into an originally smaller bushed car (right fook?), so wrecker hunting for celica/corona/cressida/scorpion control arms would enable you to run a pretty wide range of tracks and cambers

 

I'm using Scorpion control arms in Hal for more track, was using XT130 control arms in Pinky just because I had them, they look the same as KE55 ones. Scorpion ones are longer, you'll need a custom bush to fit it to a KE35, most definately similar in the KE20. Not hard to do.

 

I can't fit any bigger than 6" wide rims under my guards, that's with not much clearance between strut and rim, and none at all between rim and outer guard.

[Super Jamie]

As to what other struts fit in a KE20, I have no idea.

nothing does

[Super Jamie]

how much did the re-bushing of the control arm cost you?

[irokin]

ke30 control arms in ke20. ben, you own both cars, see if this is a bolt up possibility? then you'll have control arms with 14mm balljoint, then you could use ae86 p/s arms with xt130 struts (like fook did in pinky) or even ae86 adjustables which you should be able to buy pre-made if option magazine is anything to go b

Measured them before..theyre signifigantly shorter

[demuire]

i have some aussie ae86 struts minus inserts and springs too

 

I might have some AE86 springs, stock ones. They'll be too high, but if you don't mind cutting then they'll be fine.

 

how much did the re-bushing of the control arm cost you?

 

Can't remember. I think it was cost of Scorpion bushes + favour from friend with lathe. But really, you could cut it even with a stanley knife if you were keen enough. Oh yeah, the crush tube was the problem, you'll need to get one custom made up. If you buy from shop (only place I could find anything at all was GSA, they wanted something like $150 for them or some ridiculous amount) you'll pay a lot because it's not a common size. If you have friend with lathe you can get some made up. I forget how much I paid.

[Super Jamie]

fair enough, i have lathe technology available to me

 

what's "they" ben?

[irokin]

They...control arms

 

Out of curiosity I just went to remeasure them with a tape measure (first time was with a ruler)

 

Turns out my Jap KE30 control arms are accually quite close to the KE20 arms....VERRYYYY INTERSTING!. Steering arms would have to be changed still. I'm willing to give it a try. If it gives me positive camber all is not lost...there are ways to fix that....

[irokin]

Also figured out a way to fix the steering arm length thing. You leave them at whatever length arm you end up with. Then find idler arms that are longer....problem solved...

[Super Jamie]

allow me to elaborate, which "they" control arm is shorter?

[irokin]

KE30 but theres not much in it...10mm maybe..tops

[irokin]

Just out under the cars again

 

KE20 330mm

KE30 310mm

 

:P Time to do some calculations to figure out camber change

[Felix]

could you put ke30 ball joints in your ke20 arms?

[irokin]

Not sure...might measure tomorrow. I wonder if I could resize the hole...

[Felix]

i have a feeling they might just press in.