the cheapest way to make a 4age faster is to remove weight from the car, and improve the handling.

Next cheapest is to add turbo.

 

Otherwise you are spending $thousands to get <20% gains

the cheapest way to make a 4age faster is to remove weight from the car, and improve the handling.

Next cheapest is to add turbo.

 

Otherwise you are spending $thousands to get <20% gains

 

Doesnt that cost thousands? :y:

 

On a serious note, how cheaply could you turbo a silvertop?

depends how much work you can do yourself, and how good you are at sourcing 2nd hand parts :y:

Could I do it safely with factory ecu, running minimal boost?

 

EDIT: Cheaply :y:

Edited June 11, 200917 yr by quadeyquade

Mmmm probably not, also there such a high compression, minimal boost would really be minimal. wouldnt be worth the effort in my opinion.

 

Travis.

Yea but when you think about cheap does it make it worth it to do these tiny little modifications that do shit all, when you could just save your money for something that does it right and does it right first time. Tiny modifications will give you a poofteenth of extra power but with all mods you will lose something, its like putting a weber 32/36 on a 4k, your doing it on the cheap cause it gives you a tiny bit more top end but you lose any kind of fuel economy.

 

Make it worth while and don't spend money on things that you sacrifice something like fuel economy for a poofteenth of power increase and mostly likely not over the entire rev range.

 

But go ahead prove me wrong make a 4age with a shipload of a power increase from "cheap" mods and see how long the 4age lasts/how long it takes for you to get bored and realise you just wasted money and either change to a different car/engine or actually do the modifications that are worth while.

 

Travis.

 

I think the bigport cams could be a goer... by them selves they might no make a huge difference.

But if you add those cams, a decent cold air intake system, set of extractors and a decent exhaust.

Give it a good service, run on Premium fuel and get the timing set.

 

I'm sure all of that together would make the car "feel" faster and snappier to drive. Its not one thing that makes huge power, it a mixture of small things that can make a car feel nice to drive and not a real pig.

 

 

i find a 32/36 on a bog stock 4k is rubbish, too big. too boggy, uses more fuel ect.

Match that with a nice cam, extractors some head work and a good strong spark and the little 4k will feel a whole lot more snappier and quicker.

Yea thats true, it would "feel" faster, it wouldnt really be faster by much at all.

 

You may get an extra 15-20hp at the fly? so might bring it back to around the power of what it was stock, but it will sound faster :y:

 

Also a stock jdm rwd exhaust manifold mixed with a 2" system would be heaps decent enough for most 4ages up to 200hp according to Bill Sherwood, so it would easy suffice for a extremely mild one. you might call that a "cheap" upgrade because you don't need expensive extractors.

 

Travis.

it would rev faster, smoother, have a bit more top end.. wont be like going from a 3k to a 2JZ sorta difference, but id think atleast from a stock 3k, to a mild 5k maybe?

Hmm really? Itd pull that much more?

 

Gee well if thats what you can get from those mods imagine what I will get from mine!

 

Travis.

prolly not that much, but you get the idea.. it would be a noticeable amount, and prolly enough to make it quicker or spin wheels longer ect.. the user would notice it very quickly

Mmmm probably not, also there such a high compression, minimal boost would really be minimal. wouldnt be worth the effort in my opinion.

 

Travis.

 

Its just my mate as some shit lying around, top mount, a small turbo etc and i don't want to see it go to waste :y:. And he can weld, and excepts payment in beer, so I was wondering what else is needed to run small amounts of boost

mmm gotta remember that turbos spool up they don't give you a continuse boost like a supercharger, if its a small turbo it would run out of chuff straight away.

 

You need to pick the right sized turbo for your application.

 

You get me?

 

Travis.

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mmm gotta remember that turbos spool up they don't give you a continuse boost like a supercharger, if its a small turbo it would run out of chuff straight away.

 

You need to pick the right sized turbo for your application.

 

You get me?

 

Travis.

 

By run out of puff, do you then lose psi, or stop making boost? Sorry for all the noob questions, I'm a noob at turbos. Also, what would be a good size for the 20v?

Also, I have the afm, not a map sensor like some of those links suggest.. Does this make it easier/harder to put it through boost?