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but there would be no engineers cert to start with... it would be comparible to taking your car to the drags and changing to drag slicks in a way... they are illegal on the street but if you are only using them at the track then it's fine.

 

Felix that was the point of keeping the seat in the back so I could keep it registered as a 5 seater yet still have a cage for when it's needed.

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You've never bolted a cage in and out of a car, have you? If it's a good fiting cage, it's seriously not fun. This is not a 1 hour job, and not something I generally like to do more than once. Or in this day and age, weld the bastard in. It sounds like you need to make a REAL decision with what you want to do with the car. If you want the powa machine drift pig thing with roll cage, it's time to buy another car to cart your mates around in, or hitch a lift with them. Don't do it half arsed, or you'll start comprimising important things, like your safety.

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damn... I was hoping I wouldn't have to do it like that.

 

just thinking about my mates RA65 celica (1G-GTE) that he takes to QR. no sound deadening/carpet/seats etc haha...

 

but then the thing is if I do it like full crazy style what would be the point in having it registered? when that's what I really want.

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then as long as you're not modifying anything to do with the structural rigidity of the car (such cutting into chassis rails or pillars) or safety (such as modifying the seatbelt mount points) then i don't see it would be a problem

 

i don't really see that it would be much use either. a bolt in cage like that would need alot of reinforcement around the floor area to provide any noticeable flex resistance, and to have one properly designed to be collapsible and removable would cost alot of money, more than just a weld in cage. i also wonder if the sideplay due to the gaps in the boltholes would make it a total waste of time altogether?

 

if you want to pose and look like a fully sick hardcore japanese d1 drifter guy, knock some pvc pipe up and paint it with metallic spraycans, there's your rollcage. if you want a car with improved rollover protection and integral chassis strength, sacrifice your backseat to the driving gods and buy a daily shitbox to carry people around in

 

basically, a cage isn't intended to be a small bolt-in mod. if it was me, i'd either do it properly, or not at all

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but then the thing is if I do it like full crazy style what would be the point in having it registered? when that's what I really want.

it's something we all consider at some point

 

most dedicated racecars with road rego are not nice to drive around in, high diff ratios and lack of sound deadening, exhaust noise, rattles, etc etc. nor really useful in any way, the back being dominated by cage and perhaps nets to keep the helmets in, the boot housing the spare tyre (mounted specifically for quick release) and fuel system, so there's no room for your shopping either!

 

as much as i would have loved to get that serious with my ke25, and i would have one day, it was nice in the meantime to be able to drive around and have carpet and a stereo and little comfort stuff. and carry carloads of drunk people from parties to the pub and what not. and root on the back seat :lmao:

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right on the money there jamie, we've had to drive the rally car to and from events before and believe me there's always a fight over who's driving the service vehicle, no one wants to drive a noisey f@$ken rally car 100+kms.

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*quote*and root on the back seat

you can actually root in the back of a 25?

it was hard enuff in daisy with no back seat...of course you're just a skinny little f@$k

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