z250junker Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) I have been here a while and thought It was time I showed a few pictures of my car and what type of driving it sees. the car is a dark blue KE70 flat front and has been owned by nearly everyone. I live just off Magill road and grip drive through the hills on a weekly basis. the original 4KC was quite a screamer and never missed a beat, however a 4K has little to no torque and to climb hills with speed there is no substitute. turbo or supercharged engines have too many potential issues that will lead to increased repair/running costs, increased problem diagnosis, installation difficulty. the "feel" and "free" rev of a naturally aspirated engine is hard to beat, it is very usable and is excellent for engine braking and since this will be my first engine conversion I want to keep it as cheap and easy as possible. 4AGE 16 valve is the obvious choice, parts can be found relatively easily but at a cost and RWD parts are through the roof! also being a KE70 not AE71 the box is a K40 not T50 so that along with the hydraulic clutch master, lines, slave and pedal box will also have to be purchased in order to use the 4age. This has also been done to death. so a very rough estimate to bolt in a 4age would be around $1500 if you got poor prices and some new parts. The car was purchased for $750 so its not like I want to spend that much on purely the engine just to get the extra torque and power. additional parts needed to convert from carburettor to EFI: -relays and wiring - required to switch various new circuits added -baffled tank or a simple surge tank system -high pressure pump -lift pump (for surge tank only) This conversion if done with what has been mentioned above would be a walk in the park... however It is not always the best route, sometimes a dirt cheap complete engine comes along and a "simple" plan is formed to put that engine in your car cheaply. $200 CA18DE (from EXA) $100 S12 5 speed gearbox $150 BHG CA18DE (from s13) $100 fabricated engine and gearbox mounts $300 custom made tailshaft $200 Surge tank, High pressure pump and lift pump $100 wiring and plumbing total $ 1150 this has been the conversion that I have had varied enthusiasm towards over the last 6 or so months. Currently It it not far off being a running engine. Wiring is the big issue, currently making a additional small loom for the Coil-Packs and the Air Flow Meter as these are missing from my loom.. Edited December 31, 2011 by z250junker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altezzaclub Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Why the two motors?? Cheaper than fixing the RWD one? Are you keeping a receipt list? gasket sets etc? Seems a good conversion... Its an option if the CA20 in my Pintara blows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z250junker Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) the EXA motor is a good runner but I needed a RWD loom, ECU and manifolds. And yes the S13 engine was all kinds of black death and metal shavings so it requires a solid rebuild costing way more than both engines together. Edited November 22, 2011 by z250junker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z250junker Posted December 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) My daily aw11 is having bigport headgasket failure and this has slowed the whole thing down a little. here are some pics of my new smallport for the aw11 as well as the car itself. and some pics of the corolla's fuel setup and wrinkle painted cam covers :) Edited December 18, 2011 by z250junker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer[RL] Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Greetings fellow adub owner :happy: Edited December 19, 2011 by Spencer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Looking good Jack! That 4K i got off you is rotting away in the back yard haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figjam14 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 just wondering how hard you found the swap for the ca. i can get a ca18de with box loom and everything for 100 from somone :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z250junker Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Greetings fellow adub owner :happy: cheers dude! such an under-loved car the mr2 Looking good Jack! That 4K i got off you is rotting away in the back yard haha. put it in an car already! that 4k was the best I have driven :) just wondering how hard you found the swap for the ca. i can get a ca18de with box loom and everything for 100 from somone :/ $100 is obviously a good deal, be careful its not too good to be true. make sure it has everything! I am yet to find a starter motor/ flywheel that works with my combination. I can't really comment on difficulty as I have yet to finish mine, it has been a long haul and wiring is always going to slow people down. since you are getting this package so cheap it might be justifiable to get the kit ($300) for engine mounts and gearbox mounts also this conversion requires a custom tail-shaft to be made up and some type of surge tank or baffled fuel tank if you are in adelaide I am happy to show you in person the odd ball parts to this conversion that I have found along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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