chrisfindlay Posted February 5, 2012 Report Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Hey guys so I have the following 4age 16v smallport w/rear wheel drive intake manifold. T50 gearbox Brand new Vl Fuel pump. Brand new 4age Extractors. Brand new 52mm Aluminum Radiator 220mm flywheel. 4a Clutch. Clutch master slave and hardline. Wiring loom x 2 Ecu What else do I need to put this setup in my ksev? Any assistance is greatly appreciated cheers. Edited February 5, 2012 by chrisfindlay Quote
shayden Posted February 5, 2012 Report Posted February 5, 2012 pedal box.. high pressure fuel pump bosch 044 ive got one if needed need high pressure fuel lines radiator sv21 or excel loom of cos thats all i can think of hope that helped Quote
B.L.Z.BUB Posted February 5, 2012 Report Posted February 5, 2012 Ae71 cross member. gear box mount Quote
Des Posted February 5, 2012 Report Posted February 5, 2012 Bigport water outlet for the rear of the head. Quote
Willis Posted February 5, 2012 Report Posted February 5, 2012 Illest stickers. Jackass Hahaha :P Quote
B.L.Z.BUB Posted February 5, 2012 Report Posted February 5, 2012 Do you have an ECU and loom? You may need a banjo joint for the clutch slave but you'll only know once your extractors are bolted on. Not a big issue. Quote
chrisfindlay Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Posted February 5, 2012 pedal box.. high pressure fuel pump bosch 044 ive got one if needed need high pressure fuel lines radiator sv21 or excel loom of cos thats all i can think of hope that helped Got a 52mm aluminum radiator and a Vl high pressure fuel pump. Also got the loom and ecu. Quote
chrisfindlay Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Posted February 5, 2012 Illest stickers. Funny cause I actually have a set.. Quote
chrisfindlay Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Posted February 5, 2012 Do you have an ECU and loom? You may need a banjo joint for the clutch slave but you'll only know once your extractors are bolted on. Not a big issue. Yeah ive got the Ecu and loom.. I NEED MOUNTS ASWELL I KNOW THAT, Surely there has to be more? Quote
ke70dave Posted February 5, 2012 Report Posted February 5, 2012 ok i assume you have searched right? I'm going to write out the list again, and this time put it in my signature! (if it fits...) you do not need a bosch 044 pump, that is MILES to big. you will just be pumping fuel around your engine bay, heating it up, and potentially creating vapour lock at the inlet of your pump (google it, interesting phenominon, which i belive i experienced when i was running a fuel pump that was too big and was low on petrol) do do a 4age conversion properly i belive you need the following: General stuff: -4age engine (obviosly) -T50 gearbox with brand new clutch slave, if clutch slave is on passenger side (exhaust side) banjo bolt on the clutch slave to give more room for exhaust. -Ae71 or custom made tailshaft. -rwd intake manifold (howeever you do it on a smallport, weld it up or adaptor, or a jdm ae86 one for bigport) -extractors (either oem or aftermarket, becareful alot of aftermarket ones will foul on the clutch slave if it is an ADM gearbox) -engine to gearbox braces (i didnt use them, but others reckon its a good idea, if you can get them best to get them) -ae71 engine cross member (or custom made) -ae71 gearbox cross member (or custom made) -ae71 or ae86 steel engine and rubber mounts, you can buy the rubber things new, but the steel ones you will have to find or make. -ae71 pedal box and brand new clutch master -clutch hard hydraulic line, grab one off any old RWD toyota. bend to suit...carefully. -NEW clutch soft line (from hard line to clutch slave) DO NOT use a 2nd hand 30yr old rubber line. -200mm flywheel is fine, new clutch kit including release bearing and you need to put a pilot bearing in the end of the crank shaft (which is bearing part number 6001 i think) electrical -loom and ecu to suit your engine, bigport try and get one from an jdm ae86 (so it fits the car properly), if smallport you have to go FWD, its a tight squeeze, but do-able. -circuit opening relay configuration for the fuel pump: http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.php?title=Circuit_Opening_Relay_Wiring -wire in the alternator via this: http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.php?title=Tech:Engine/A_Series/Alternator_Wiring_Diagram -wire in a check engine light- the pin on the ecu is earth, use a small 12V bulb with +12V ign on one side, other side to the ecu pin. then you can diagnose problems when they arise. -you need to run decent sized wires down to the fuel pumps, just ground the pumps down the back though. -you will need various relays to make this all happen, do it once, do it properly. cooling system: -FWD 4age remote thermostat housing, thermostat, and associated pipes -standard radiator is plenty enough, waste of time buying some huge aluminium thing if the standard one is in good condition. i used stnadard ae71 one for a few yrs with 16V, no dramas on the street. find pipes to suit, may need long ones. make it look something like this http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/showthread.php/16481-Hooking-up-a-4age-16v-RWD-cooling-system fuel system: http://www.rollaclub.com/board/topic/37561-ke70-fuel-injection-question-vl-fuel-pump/ read this, and don't skimp and just put in an external pump, it will hate you, and the noise will drive you up the wall. This should be pretty much everything for the conversion, any questions on what i have typed....highlight it...and google it...as thats how i found all these links. more info here: http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.php?title=Tech:Engine/A_Series/Converting_to_RWD don't use ANY 2nd hand hydraulic equipment (clutch stuff) and don't use a 2nd hand clutch either. new stuff where possible in a conversion is always better, then you know what you are dealing with from the beginning. hope this helps. Quote
chrisfindlay Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Posted February 5, 2012 ok i assume you have searched right? I'm going to write out the list again, and this time put it in my signature! (if it fits...) you do not need a bosch 044 pump, that is MILES to big. you will just be pumping fuel around your engine bay, heating it up, and potentially creating vapour lock at the inlet of your pump (google it, interesting phenominon, which i belive i experienced when i was running a fuel pump that was too big and was low on petrol) do do a 4age conversion properly i belive you need the following: General stuff: -4age engine (obviosly) - Got one. -T50 gearbox with brand new clutch slave, if clutch slave is on passenger side (exhaust side) banjo bolt on the clutch slave to give more room for exhaust. - Got one. -Ae71 or custom made tailshaft. -rwd intake manifold (howeever you do it on a smallport, weld it up or adaptor, or a jdm ae86 one for bigport) - Got one. -extractors (either oem or aftermarket, becareful alot of aftermarket ones will foul on the clutch slave if it is an ADM gearbox) - Got one. -engine to gearbox braces (i didnt use them, but others reckon its a good idea, if you can get them best to get them) -ae71 engine cross member (or custom made) -ae71 gearbox cross member (or custom made) -ae71 or ae86 steel engine and rubber mounts, you can buy the rubber things new, but the steel ones you will have to find or make. -ae71 pedal box and brand new clutch master -clutch hard hydraulic line, grab one off any old RWD toyota. bend to suit...carefully. - Got one. -NEW clutch soft line (from hard line to clutch slave) DO NOT use a 2nd hand 30yr old rubber line. -200mm flywheel is fine, new clutch kit including release bearing and you need to put a pilot bearing in the end of the crank shaft (which is bearing part number 6001 i think) - Got one. electrical -loom and ecu to suit your engine, bigport try and get one from an jdm ae86 (so it fits the car properly), if smallport you have to go FWD, its a tight squeeze, but do-able. - Got one. -circuit opening relay configuration for the fuel pump: http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.php?title=Circuit_Opening_Relay_Wiring -wire in the alternator via this: http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.php?title=Tech:Engine/A_Series/Alternator_Wiring_Diagram -wire in a check engine light- the pin on the ecu is earth, use a small 12V bulb with +12V ign on one side, other side to the ecu pin. then you can diagnose problems when they arise. -you need to run decent sized wires down to the fuel pumps, just ground the pumps down the back though. -you will need various relays to make this all happen, do it once, do it properly. cooling system: -FWD 4age remote thermostat housing, thermostat, and associated pipes -standard radiator is plenty enough, waste of time buying some huge aluminium thing if the standard one is in good condition. i used stnadard ae71 one for a few yrs with 16V, no dramas on the street. find pipes to suit, may need long ones. make it look something like this http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/showthread.php/16481-Hooking-up-a-4age-16v-RWD-cooling-system fuel system: http://www.rollaclub.com/board/topic/37561-ke70-fuel-injection-question-vl-fuel-pump/ read this, and don't skimp and just put in an external pump, it will hate you, and the noise will drive you up the wall. This should be pretty much everything for the conversion, any questions on what i have typed....highlight it...and google it...as thats how i found all these links. more info here: http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.php?title=Tech:Engine/A_Series/Converting_to_RWD don't use ANY 2nd hand hydraulic equipment (clutch stuff) and don't use a 2nd hand clutch either. new stuff where possible in a conversion is always better, then you know what you are dealing with from the beginning. hope this helps. Thanks so much mate, Now I will be able to get this thing in, in no time :) Quote
shayden Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 Got a 52mm aluminum radiator and a Vl high pressure fuel pump. Also got the loom and ecu. starter motor for t50?? welded diff :thumbsup: Quote
press-ke70 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 I have a stock ke70 and a 16v 4age in a ae92 seca that I brought as a whole wrecking and all that's it's missing from the ae92 is the extractors and it's a fwd. I was just wondering what I will need to take from the ae92 and stuff I might need to buy to do a convertion Quote
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