Suspension?

[jamie_ke70]

hey my names jamie i just recently brought a ke70 and herd u can put vn or vr suspension coils and shocks in the rear? was just wondering what brand or what ones i should get id like it to be as stiff as possible and sitting just above my 16x8 inch wheels with spacers please help will be much appreciated

[rian]

VL to VS Commodore rear shocks will "fit" the rear of a KE70, but do some research before you choose as there are many different shock lengths available for all those models of Commodore. They will all be super stiff in a KE70, but I'd say the FE2 versions would most likely be the stiffest.

The rear springs out of a Commodore won't fit in the rear of a KE70 properly unless you cut them, and then they won't fit properly because you've cut them. Try looking for some AE86 lowered springs.

Edited February 13, 2013 by rian

[jamie_ke70]

ok thanks for your help mate so my best bet would be suspension out of a ae86? and if choose to use ae86 front coilovers what else would i need?

[ke70dave]

Id suggest you jump over to ae86dc and search through some of the old tech articls, i recall a huge thread on putting 86 coilvoers into a ke70.

 

simliar for the rear shocks there is a large thread around where someone went to a parts shop and measured up a stack of shocks that fitted.

 

the shock that i used in the rear was i think called a "FE2 commondore wagon lowered shock" or something. JYB part number 343113.

 

Worked very well with some...er.....modified falcon springs.

[rian]

Here is a post I made a long time ago about Commodore rear dampers:

 

 

Okay so I did some research into this rear Commodore shock situation, here's what I discovered:

-VB to VS SEDANS can all use the same rear shock.

-VB-VS WAGON rear shocks are longer than VB-VS SEDAN rear shocks.

-VB-VS models that have a "Rear Beam Axle" have shocks that are way longer than models without the beam axle(I have no idea what a beam axle is)

-The bottom mounting hole varies in diameter between wagon, sedan and beam axle models. The standard VB-VS commodore sedan rear shock had the same diameter mounting hole as the KE70 rear shock, where there was just a rubber bush for the mount. All other VB-VS shocks had a metal bush thingy inside the rubber bush, and were thus too smaller diameter.

Here are the dimensions:

-KE70 rear shock:

extended: ~560mm

compressed: ~360mm

 

-VB-VS (NON BEAM AXLE):

extended: ~500mm

compressed: ~300mm

 

-VB-VS wagon:

extended: ~530mm

compressed: ~325mm

 

-All other VB-VS varients (Rear Beam Axle etc): Longer than standard KE70 rear shocks.

 

-I didn't get a chance to measure the Commodore FE or FE2 (or whatever the Commodore lowered suspension is called) shocks, but these will definitely be shorter.

 

Here is a pic of the VB-VS SEDAN (NON BEAM AXLE) rear shock against a standard KE70 rear shock(red is VB-VS, black is KE70:

 

And here is probably half the VB-VS rear shock options, these are all different part numbers, different lengths etc

 

So in conclusion, if you want VB-VS commodore rear shocks, make sure you get the right ones as there are so many different part numbers and they can be quite different in dimensions. VB-VS sedan in standard or FE/FE2/whatever it's called would be best for a lowered KE70/AE86. But definitely take a tape measure if you got suspension shopping haha.

 

EDIT: I couldn't find any 'lowered' shocks to suit VB-VS sedans in stock, but it would probably be the best budget shock to get, the dimensions would be very suitable I'd say.

 

 

And here is the link to the thread:

 

http://www.rollaclub...kings-plz-help/

Edited February 14, 2013 by rian

[jamie_ke70]

Thanks heaps guys for your reply helped alot