thanks mate and i did search wiki, google and here but could not find it by the time i found that page i had enough and didnt scroll down far enough and if u think that way why reply
but any way do you think that (i have a stock 4k and 4 speed) that the gain swapping to a stock 5k and 5speed which i have is worth doin just for now anyway.(till i figure out which one i want to do up)