philbey Posted January 17, 2009 Report Posted January 17, 2009 Got my 5K built and in and when I tried to crank it today she turned over very very slowly. Spins fine with the plugs out though. Fairly certain its due to my high Compression Ratio (11:1ish). I'll check the earths again tomorrow and if I still can't get it to run then I will chase up a 5k Reduction starter next week. It has a 4k motor on it at the moment. Just wanted to check other peoples thoughts as well TP Quote
KE30_KE35_KE55 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Posted January 17, 2009 Got my 5K built and in and when I tried to crank it today she turned over very very slowly. Spins fine with the plugs out though. Fairly certain its due to my high Compression Ratio (11:1ish). I'll check the earths again tomorrow and if I still can't get it to run then I will chase up a 5k Reduction starter next week. It has a 4k motor on it at the moment. Just wanted to check other peoples thoughts as well TP 5K's had reduction starter motors fitted to them. the following can cause voltage drop, small leads, bad earths, even dirty battery terminals Quote
philbey Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Posted January 17, 2009 Yeh I'll give those items a good going over tomorrow, if that fails me then I'll get on the blower to a few wreckers. Quote
Redwarf Posted January 17, 2009 Report Posted January 17, 2009 Reduction starter is THE best thing you will ever put on it. Oh, and do all of the above. :y: Quote
bLinded_ Posted January 17, 2009 Report Posted January 17, 2009 I had the exact same problem with mine when the rebuilt 5K went in. Was using the old 4K starter which managed to turn it twice then give up. Replaced with a new reduction starter and had no worries. Higher compression + a tight new engine might just be a bit much for your current one to handle :y: But also check what KE30_KE35_KE55 suggested. Quote
67Rolla-Ken Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Damn, I'm going to need one of these reduction starters. Where do you get one and what are they worth?? Quote
philbey Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Posted January 18, 2009 You guys have confirmed my exact thoughts. I'm running a lot of comp so it's no surprise really. I'll go for a tinker and make up some new earth cables, but I doubt I'll see much success. Sucks because I should have seen it coming, now I fly out for work tomorrow and it's another 10 days before she fires up! Quote
67Rolla-Ken Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Will this one work (in ke10 with 5k)?? Quote
Taz_Rx Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Will this one work (in ke10 with 5k)?? No :yak: I replaced my normal 4k SM with a reduction motor. Didn't see any increase in crank RPM. :y: Have you also double checked the timing? If its around 20-30o BTDC when you're trying to start it this will give the same low crank speed as high comp or bad earths. Quote
Taz_Rx Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 Oh and I paid $200 (trade price) for my brand new reduction starter Quote
bLinded_ Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 I think mine was around the $200 mark aswell. Are they even supposed to turn at a greater RPM? I thought it was just the initial turn had a heap more torque as opposed to the standard one or something along those lines. All I know is that they work well :yak: Quote
philbey Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Posted January 18, 2009 They aren't supposed to crank it faster, they can use a smaller faster spinning motor to produce a higher starting torque. BUT - I don't need one. I bought some new battery terminals, cleaned the posts right up, trimmed back the cables to get some clean non-oxidised copper and BANG it fired up almost straight away! Unreal, I timed it and mucked around a bit and it's running alright. Quote
philbey Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Posted January 19, 2009 Thats what I said. I couldn't believe how quickly the old man had beers out of the fridge and into peoples hands as well, I'd literally just shut her off! Quote
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