Uh Oh

[CUCUY]

well, after 600,000 miles, my 3TC finally gaveway. should i rebuild and go all out in high performance, or should i swap in a rotary engine and bridgeport it?

[Super Jamie]

or should you get a series 4/5 efi 13b turbo and use that, because it will make lots of power, and be more reliable than a bridge, and use about a third of the fuel - yes :D

[CUCUY]

the $$$ isn't a real issue and i thought about going with a turbo rotary too, but my car is carb and having to run wires everywhere....ugghhh :D

[Jason]

or should you get a series 4/5 efi 13b turbo and use that, because it will make lots of power, and be more reliable than a bridge, and use about a third of the fuel - yes

 

only problem it would probably be slower because of the wheel spin :D

Edited April 12, 2005 by Jason

[Super Jamie]

if you want to go totally nuts on a 3t-c you can get decent power out of them

 

dudes in puerto rico are running 7 second quarters on 3t-c with turbo and nos. christ, the thing still has pushrods!!!

[CUCUY]

if you want to go totally nuts on a 3t-c you can get decent power out of them

 

dudes in puerto rico are running 7 second quarters on 3t-c with turbo and nos. christ, the thing still has pushrods!!!

yeah, the guys from paradise racing have all the parts i need. i'm just figuring out what to do. i don't want a daily driver that puts out stupid amounts of HP....:D

[CUCUY]

Could always scour the planet for a 4T-GTEU

 

Rare as rocking horse shit, but what an engine to brag about if you had one!

HA.....thats like me trying to get a 3TGTE here in the states...lol

[Mr Revhead[RL]]

3tgte is miles more avail EVERYWHERE in the world than the 4tgte!!

rotors= :S

[irokin]

nothing wrong with rotors...

 

Your probably just intimidated by their simplistic workings :S 600hp from 1.3 litres...yes please!

[Super Jamie]

no, the rta considers them 2.6L, the engine still only displaces 1.3L

 

10A, 2x 491cc = 982cc

12A, 2x 573cc = 1146cc

13B, 2x 654cc = 1308cc

 

hence 20B, 3x 654cc = 1962cc

[Felix]

a rotary is effectively a four cycle two stroke :S

 

 

for every revolution of one rotor you have three combustion events. for each rev of a twin rotor it has 6 combustion events.

 

for a 4 cylinder 4 stroke engine, you have 2 combustion events each revolution. so you need two revolutions to have four combustion events.

 

so your 1300cc 13B rotary thinks it is a 2600cc engine as it fires twice as often as the equivalent swept volume 4 stroke engine.

[Felix]

no, you should be comparing it to 2.6 liter four strokes. not 1.3L.

[Super Jamie]

it's still a generalisation, and an incorrect one. let's see a sigma engine with a turbo make 600+hp. thought not

 

rotaries and piston engines are like apples and oranges

[Mr Revhead[RL]]

felix is correct, when comparing them you can't just work on the static volume of the rotary. 600hp from a 2ltr 4 cyl is possible, cosworth were doing it in the 80s in the sierras..... amoungst others.

 

also rotors are not as reliable as pistons when tuned. in fact you don't even need to tune them to make then unreliable, fact is when compared to pistons rotorys lack well behind in reliability. then theres economy.....

[Mr Revhead[RL]]

actaully thats the very reason they didnt take off.... too thirsty.

and the reason GM and ford dropped them. :S that and the reliablility!