boos_rolla Posted November 18, 2009 Report Posted November 18, 2009 hey guys, i am currently running a locked 5k electronic dizzy with internal ignitor on my heavly worked 5k. now the problem i have is with the cam i have in it(unknown specs but very lumpy) and the fact that the dizzy is locked and has either no or full advance(diaphram?? has also been removed from dizzy body so can't just hook vacumm hose back up) it either dosnt want to idle at all or idles to high at about 1800 rpm :y: . now i have thought that to to help fix this id throw a points dizzy back in(standard 4k-c jobby), i did that it idled better but the electronic coil didnt like the points didnt last too long. now this begs the question: can you swap all the electronic components from the locked 5k dizzy over with the points set-up so that i can get the vacuum advance back but still retain the elctronic ignition?? :y: or would just be easier getting a new set of points and coil? if so what brand what be best? and just selling the locked 5k dizzy to someone for a turbo setup?? any help is much appricciated guys just getting sick of always having to play with the accelerator to keep it idling cheers chris Quote
corollaart Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 Not sure on swapping internals, but if its idling at 1800 rev vacum advance wouldnt work any way. Most vacum advance diaphams siezed up years ago. Ive never bothed with them .I would be looking else where vacum leak :y: Carby ,do the basics first . Quote
SLO-030 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 How is the elec dizzy locked? have a look and see if the weights can be released. Id say the diaphram SHOULD swap over. Quote
boos_rolla Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Posted November 19, 2009 hey guys, yeh i tried looking at the carby as i already rebuilt it when i first put the engine in at christmas and it has done it since the engine was installed by now I'm driving everyday it starting to shit me.... well for the vacuum leaks i only have the normal vacuum advance line off the carby blocked and there arnt any other lines running to or from the carby, also checked the mani gasket for leaks, line from the booster has no leaks also... and since when i changed it to the points dizzy and i got it to idle at about 800-1000rpm so this is what has led me to pointing at the dizzy for dramas.. slo-030 I'm not sure how its locked as i havnt had the top off it as i don't know how top get it off so i don't want to stuff it up.... any help with this would be helpfull though... Quote
SLO-030 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 Take the rotor button off Not sure on how the electric ones come out (points have 1 screw for the points and 2 for the advance plate) Under the advance plate should be your advance weights. the weights will either be removed or restrained in some way. Hope this helps Quote
beerhead Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 Hey - Stuff mucking around with vaccum advance if you've got a nice motor, 1920's ignition technology in 2010 on a built motor? I'd stick with the locked dizzy and build a Jaycar high energy igntion system PM me if your not confident in building the system, I'm more than willing to help out for a few beers :y: Quote
SLO-030 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 Hey - Stuff mucking around with vaccum advance if you've got a nice motor, 1920's ignition technology in 2010 on a built motor? I'd stick with the locked dizzy and build a Jaycar high energy igntion system PM me if your not confident in building the system, I'm more than willing to help out for a few beers :y: I don't know if it was you or someone else talking about this kit a while back. I have one of these kits. all put together including knock sensor, hand controller, Controller lead,map sensor and coil driver. Never really got it working, if your keen with electronics you can have a go at it. MOST of the hard work is done Quote
boos_rolla Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Posted November 19, 2009 yeh that kit looks the goods but as i am looking at selling the car and i need to drive it everyday ill probably look at the elec dizzy and see how its locked first and then maybe tryswaping over back to points dizzy, re-do the timing, valve clearences etc and start from scratch so to say. i think the hardest part is doing all this with the sort of cam thats in it as 1.don't know what brand and type it is and 2 . its as lumpy as all shit..... cheers chris Quote
beerhead Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) No worries. When you say "never got it working" with that kit, what'd you have drama's with? Nothing toasted on assembly? I've got a mate that I'm gonna build one for a twin 1GGZE charger 308. Edited November 20, 2009 by beerhead Quote
SLO-030 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 No worries. When you say "never got it working" with that kit, what'd you have drama's with? Nothing toasted on assembly? I've got a mate that I'm gonna build one for a twin 1GGZE charger 308. Nah mate, not toasted., It just never worked for me. I think just needs some going over the schematics. PM me of your interested. Quote
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