shadowhawk Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 How hard would it be to put new pistion rings in 3k would i be able to do it with the engine still in the car my cars blowing a lot of smoke and using up a lot of oil latey so I'm guess its time for some new pistion rings get the head shaved and new head gasket and all that unless its somting eles? I'm just wondering with the 3k engine if I would be able to do this work with out taking the engine and if any one would know how much it would cost to get the head shaved and how much for the pistoin ring and head gasket seat ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowhawk Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 i just really noticed that the smoke isn't really blue, there is some blue smoke in there but its like gray/white smoke that's poring out of the car like a smoke machine what could that be I just put a bottle of that stop smoke stuff in there so could it be that or the fuel or maybe a blow head gasket but I don't think its that the coolant hasn't goon down any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerhead Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Generally the following is the case. * If your engine is blowing constant smoke, generally it's just the rings. * If under extreme vaccum shift from what to Closed throttle you get a little puffet of smoke, you have dead valve guides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowhawk Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 y thank you so how would i do the piston rings do i take off the sump and the head unbolt the con rods from the crank and just slid (hit) them out with the engine still in the car then put em back in and blot every thing up them up oh yeah would any one know how to convert Ft/Lb into NM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Seriously take the engine out. We did a ring replacement in car and it was hell. I'm not saying it can't be done its just easier out of the car!! Get a gregorys manual or similar, that should outline everything you need to do. don't forget to hone the bores in some way or the rings will never seal properly and you'll find yourself re-ringing again in the very near future. ft/lb into nm: http://www.onlineconversion.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowhawk Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 yeah ill be honing it out and new value stem seals and every thing when i take the engine apart mmm i don't have an engine Crain how much do u think the 3k engine weigh u recon me and a couple mate would be lift it out by hand? if we take off the head and other stuff first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwarf Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 (edited) yeah ill be honing it out and new value stem seals and every thing when i take the engine apart mmm i don't have an engine Crain how much do u think the 3k engine weigh u recon me and a couple mate would be lift it out by hand? if we take off the head and other stuff first? Chain blocks do the same thing, and can be cheaper. Yes, you and a mate, and preferably another mate to guide things, can remove a 3k with a bit of Armstrong engineering. You don't even need to take the head off, although it makes thing easier. We never used to bother. All you need is a length of chain, and a long pole/ lump of wood. Done it a number of times. Find a really strong mate, and you can pull the box out with it. I used to do it with me and my mate Batch on one side, and another mate, Neville (LARGE gentleman) on the other. Do yourself a favour, don't do the rings and bearings in car, pull the motor out. Edited March 13, 2006 by Redwarf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corolla_Kid Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Chain blocks are fairly cheap from ye old supercheap and make a worthwile investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent-KE30 Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Yeah i agree with what the others have said it will be alot quicker to take the motor and Gb all out in one we got one out of a KE70 Wagon in about 20 minutes, and yes get the block honed and get everything replaced while you have it apart, it can save you a real headache, Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowhawk Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 (edited) Yeah I might get a chain block what do I attach it to it and what not its chain block pulley thing ay I could always blot it up to car part roof, do u think it will hold?? If I bolt it up to the wood things under the plaster bored roof if not what do I get to hold the chain pulley block thing? Also should I just get another engine say like a 4k or a 5k and put new piston rings and all the other stuff and drop it in or would it not be worth it are they same engine mounts is it an easy job if any one knows ?? arhh also my alternator stopped working today the change light stays on does this mean my alternator is stuffed Edited March 13, 2006 by shadowhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolla__Boy Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I'd suggest buying a new corolla :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent-KE30 Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 With the alternator and charge light it might be a faulty earth mine was doing the same thing. The 3K has the same engine mounts as 4K, 5K etc Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowhawk Posted March 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 i just got this car coz my nice car (toyota cressida) engine is stuffed and i needed something to get around in so i don't have any money to get another car it only really started to smoke really bad when i put that stop smoke nulon stuff in it so i might do an oil change and filter and see if it still blows smoke bad while also was revving the shit out of the poor old engine trying to maybe blow that shit out or burn it all up but it didn't really work I toke it for a long run on the freeway today and it didn't smoke that bad after a little I was having a look in my engine bay at the alternator and I noticed a block of wood in-between the intake and the exhaust and in-between the starter motor and the alternator I couldn't get it out I have to remove the alternator to do so and I don't know what the block of wood is doing there its only sitting in there loosely With the alternator the charge light didn't come on today so (strange things these corollas one day something not working and the next day its fixed it self ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I was having a look in my engine bay at the alternator and I noticed a block of wood in-between the intake and the exhaust and in-between the starter motor and the alternator I couldn't get it out I have to remove the alternator to do so and I don't know what the block of wood is doing there its only sitting in there loosely What the f@$k?????? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowhawk Posted March 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hahaha exactly what I said before I tried to pull it out but I couldn't get it out so I ll just leave it in there till it catches on fire hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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