2S-C Conversion

[Jacksonpressick]

Want to put a 2s-c into a ke70 wagon, anyone done it? How hard is it? And does it drop straight in? Any help appreciated! :)

[ke70dave]

Why do you want to do that?

 

It wont bolt in and for the same effort you could have many other engines in there.

 

This this a case of "i have a 2sc and i want to put it in my ke70 cause i got it for free" type project? Cause they are never a good idea.

[Jacksonpressick]

They're cheap, a little bit more go than a 4k, and don't look anything flash, so being on my P's I don't want to attract too much attention

[altezzaclub]

I'm sure it will drop staight in as well as any other 2litre 4cyl, but that is still a lot of work.

 

The easiest would be to bore your 4K out to 1500cc with 5K pistons.

 

Next you could use a 7K or 3Y side-cam motor that still looks like a 4K at first glance. The 7K is 1.8L long stroke toque monster, the 4Y is a 2.2L oversquare one. The Y motors are available brand new from China, they were used in the Chery or Great Wall.

http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/jennypuhanpower/product-detailXBcQoTrGImkE/China-Engines-for-Toyota-4Y-.html

 

As Dave says, the work is far greater than the cost of any motor, so you should maximise your advantage if going overhead cam and use the 4AGE.

 

You can see how much work is involved by checking the dates on people's build threads, and the fact that there are plenty of un-started or half-done conversions for sale. I wouldn't think any motor is particularly easy, they will all need new mounts, another gearbox, so a mongrel driveshaft, a hydraulic clutch setup, new choke and throttle setups, new exhausts, new inlet setups and all those have to be custom made.

 

Cost... I reckon a true cost would be between $5000 and $10,000, most of which will be engineering costs to get stuff made. Everyone says they did it cheaper, but most people don't keep all the receipts and often they just don't want to know! Try telling your wife you've spent $8000 on that 30yr-old car in the garage that you paid $900 for!

 

Start with a easy one and work upwards!

Edited February 7, 2014 by altezzaclub

[ATOYOTA]

+1 for the bigger K motor idea. Stick a couple of DCOE's on, bigger lumpstick, extractors, maybe if you can still afford it several hundred bucks later; bore it out with 5K pistons and skim the head a bit.

 

Should get away with the above for less than a grand if you source your parts right and know your shit. Then you can start doing things like thermo fan, electric fuel pump, and lightened flywheel to free up a bit of the parasitic effect in the driveline.

 

Alternatively, you could track down an AE71 and pull out everything from the engine to tail shaft, pedal box and crossmembers, and stick with the slightly peppier, factory optioned, fully legal 1.6L 4A-C until you're off your P's. Then when the time comes, most of the work is already done for a 4A-GE.

 

Cars are expensive when you fvck with them.

[B.L.Z.BUB]

Look up 3SGTE conversions, plenty been done into AE86 and KE70's. Same thing pretty much except the 2SC is crap.

 

And no way in hell it'll go under the radar with the local po-po.