monzo Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 Hi people, i'm trying to figure out what to do with a steering conversion problem on my TE51/KE55 Liftback Corolla. I'm putting in rack & pinion from a ke70 but currently have nissan S14 Silvia Coilovers+LCA's+Brakes. I have brand new S14 tie rod ends here but not sure which direction to head with for the ke70 rack. Does anyone know if S14 rack ends would work and fit in the ke70 manual rack? Otherwise i'm hoping the current ke70 tie rod ends will fit into the s14 hubs. Heading down to the shed tomorrow to check it all out, but was hoping someone has done it before :) Appreciate any help. Cheers. Quote
altezzaclub Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 I would expect that to be a tricky job, or you will lose handling and tyre wear. I have a terrible feeling most guys just slap stuff in without a clear understanding of how it all works together. Read this one for a background- http://www.rctek.com/technical/handling/ackerman_steering_principle.html 1 Quote
monzo Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Posted January 4, 2015 I would expect that to be a tricky job, or you will lose handling and tyre wear. I have a terrible feeling most guys just slap stuff in without a clear understanding of how it all works together. Read this one for a background- http://www.rctek.com..._principle.html interesting read, i'm definitely not the type to slap things in and hope they work but so far have gotten lucky I must say with how it's been bolting in.. Only bit of cutting i've had to do so far is grind the top coilover bolt holes out a bit to fit them in and drill 1 hole per lca to fit the corolla adjustable castor rods. I shouldn't have a problem with tyre wear, etc as I have castor/camber adjustment with how it is at the moment.... well won't know until it goes for a wheel alignment... but I can't imagine it being out of wack to bad. That side of it anyway.... the steering rack side I have no idea. I'm no welder either so I might handover to a shop to just do this portion of the job as I need to get someone in to make the mounting tabs anyway... Quote
Jono.C Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 I've done about 6 corolla's to RnP conversion now, And easiest/ best way for you would be to use the complete ke70 Crossmember. It's a little wider, But i always weld flat plate on top and drill bolt holes to suit Ke3x/ke5x rails and then trim the extra length off. This ensures the rack to be in proper position and thus reducing chance of bump steer/ binding etc Rest is pretty east. I've used Bluebird otr's in the past. But really s13/s14 suspension is back peddling with that chassis. Ae86 would be a far better idea.. But each to their own. Quote
monzo Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I've done about 6 corolla's to RnP conversion now, And easiest/ best way for you would be to use the complete ke70 Crossmember. It's a little wider, But i always weld flat plate on top and drill bolt holes to suit Ke3x/ke5x rails and then trim the extra length off. This ensures the rack to be in proper position and thus reducing chance of bump steer/ binding etc Rest is pretty east. I've used Bluebird otr's in the past. But really s13/s14 suspension is back peddling with that chassis. Ae86 would be a far better idea.. But each to their own. I like that idea, the only problem I forsee is that it will bring the LCA's wider, right now it's at its limit with the s14 lca's.. Going to start ringing around shops that want to take the job on to make the mounts to my current k-frame because this part is beyond me.. Can anyone recommend anyone in Brisbane? Edited January 5, 2015 by monzo Quote
altezzaclub Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Can anyone recommend anyone in Brisbane? Harass Rollaclub members you see on here. We have some very knowledgeable members up there and there must be some welders amongst them. PM anyone with Brisbane in their location from a Google Avanced Search using- "location brisbane" site:http://www.rollaclub.com/board/ Which is what I did but it won't post as a link. Edited January 5, 2015 by altezzaclub Quote
Jono.C Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 I like that idea, the only problem I forsee is that it will bring the LCA's wider, right now it's at its limit with the s14 lca's.. From memory Lca point is the same between the cross members, Lca length is the difference. Otherwise simply use an r31 Lca A lot simpler and cheaper to use Toyotas rack geometry that's already in place than to have someone else figure it out Quote
corollaart Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 What about a write up Jono? If its legal of course.I think there would be a lot of owners including me that would love to get rid of my f##ked steering box. FAQ !!!!maybe??? Quote
monzo Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Posted January 5, 2015 Harass Rollaclub members you see on here. We have some very knowledgeable members up there and there must be some welders amongst them. PM anyone with Brisbane in their location from a Google Avanced Search using- "location brisbane" site:http://www.rollaclub.com/board/ Which is what I did but it won't post as a link. I like the idea, but harassing people isn't in my nature.. I've got it booked in at spot on performance & fabrication at slacks creek... they've assured me worst case scenario is 8 hours at $88 p/h to weld on mounts to my current k-frame and setup a intermediate shaft to the steering column... If anybody reading this wants to take the job on, then by all means contact me... happy for my money or what goes around comes around to goto a fellow member over a shop.. Quote
Jono.C Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 What about a write up Jono? If its legal of course.I think there would be a lot of owners including me that would love to get rid of my f##ked steering box. FAQ !!!!maybe??? Got a couple of cars okay the moment but I might try and get something written up when I can! Quote
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