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lol well IF i get this AE71 (awaiting payment details) then it will cop the 7A, and the KE will still eb fixed up like i had planned and cop a ghetto spec turbo 4K build :yes:

not asking anyhting abotu converting to EFI or to RWD or any of that shit. and for anyon who hasnt tried to search for info on a KE55 4AGE (or any KE model) info, your pushing shit up hill cos noone says shit about it. now i already have a KE55 4spd man. that i WAS goig nto drop a 7AGE build into. but i recently (ie. 25 mins ago :yes:) came across a AE71 fully running for a few hungy. now I'm getting it regardless but i wanna know if i can use all the parts (ie. cross member, Gbox mounts etc.) from the AE and bolt it into the KE with some minor mods to eliminate the need for custom mounts etc. plus i read the AE71 x-member bolts in and gives you some nice neg camber on the front with the KE55 LCA? true or false? would things like box x-member eetc. bolt more or less straight in with no or minimal welding/cutting? the AE is manual 5spd aswell so i would use all that for the conversion. oh also, if i use AE x-member, box, box x-member, can i then just use the driveshaft, and diff to bolt it all straight in? and can i use the rear shocks to bolt into the KE for the strut conversion. i prefer the KE55 shape, but the ease of the AE71 for obvious reasons. Cheers Nathan

w00t thanks brother. and mine will be far from stock... custom rods, smallport pistons, fully balanced, 12.1 compression :(

lol don't get me wrong, i wasnt putting shit on anyone. its just that i have been brought up around commodores, and now work for holden as a mechanic :) so I'm used to torquey motors :lolcry: turbos are awsum, but i would only use on AFTER building my motor to make awsum powe N/A. might sound stupid to some but hey. its me :P plus ht eextra 700 for more power... again turbo easier to spot than a neat N/A conversion. unless they pull m motor down they wont catch me :P

yeah but that is an extra 700 just for hte engine OVER what i wouldbe spending. plus I'm resricted on ym P's, and a turbo of S/C is alot easier to spot in an engine bay, over a nice tidy stock looking engine conversion. i have always been a fan of N/A worked engines (steppign out of 6ltr VE commos and the like :)) plus if you ask me forced induction is the cheats way. they can't be bothered/don't have hte money or are just to plain stupid to build a 'REAL' moto so they use boost for a cheap alternative :lolcry:

the cost ofa 1.8 7A block is only a few hondred. (i can get one for around 200 complete.) rods from belfab to suit stock smallport pistons are only 380 a set, these are also much lighter. fit my stock smallport pistons, then get it al lbalanced with a lightweight flywheel, and i have a full bottom end that is quick for less than 1k

yeah thanks mate :hmm: a i planned out and started to build a off tap 7AGE for my SX seca, but now I'm sellign it for acivic :dance: so decided to continue it on, into hte KE. anyone else able to help? is the 7A block 15mm higher at the top, or botom (ie more distance above or below the mounts?) and lastly, is the 7A and 4AC RWD flywheels the same?

hey guys. got bored yesterday so stripped my KE55 ready to have the rust cut out and painted. pulled the motor out (except mounts so its still sitting in there rather than in my shed) i searched but after 4 pages of respnes like 'why don't you search' it kinda gets hypocritcal. now i got thinking about a motor into it. don't want 4AGE cos i want power :dance: so decided on a 'budget' 7AGE build. i got 20V quads sitting here, and a bigport 4AGE motor aswell.. (although i might track down a smallport head) i know all the things for a FWD 7AGE build, but no for a RWD 7A build. FWD it bolts straight in, but RWD? would it sit higher due to the extra deck height of the block, or would it just extend the sump past the x-member.? I'm gunna obviously need to make mount, but having read about the 4AGE into KE55, i read that cortina/excort mounts bolt straight up. but noone could eloborate all i read was 'hey, use corty/escort mounts' but noone could confirm if they do or not. again, will this make the engine sit a bit high or what? anone used them before? Gbox mounts, can i make my engine mounts so that the stock 4 speed 4K KE55 box cross member will work with a T50 box? or is that not possible? or can i use the x-member off a T50 AE71 and bolt it up then make hte engine mounts to suit? speakign of mounts, having not dumym fit a 4A before, are the mounts the right width apart on the member itself, they just need to be made smaller or do they require cutting off the x-member and rewelding on aswell? for the master cyl thing. if i was to modify the KE pedal box, how exactly do i go about it. or is it easier just to get a AE71 hydro clutch pedal and mast. cyl. and bolt it all up. is it possible to retain the cable clutch system? this would be much easier. i assume hte T50 box will literally bolt straight onto the 7A block as it does a 4a? is the clutch for on the righ tside if i get it out of a AE71? and i just use hte RWD 4A backign plate yeah? 7A uses a 6 bolt crank end for the flywheel, where as 4AGE uses 8. but i read 4AC RWD uses 6 bolt aswell? is this ture, and can i then use a 4AC flywhel and clutch on the 7A block, rather than a custom made 7AGE flywheel? tailshaft, can anyone elaborate on the method of making one to suit the stock KE55 diff, and T50 box? can i just use the yoke and splined sliding sleeve off the T50 shaft, and attache it to the stock KE55 shaft, or are they different lengths? i assume they are. fuel tank. needs a lower outlet for the EFI pump to pick up. anyone modifyed this themself and can elaborate on this for me? can i use hte stock pump to feed a surge tank and VL turbo pum from surge tank to motor? and what car can i hijack fuel lines from for EFI? ae82? as for cooling, would the stock KE55 $K radiator be up to it. and would i need to run an aftermarket electric thermo fan? anything else I'm missing? please don't just say search, as i did and everyones answer was SEARCH. lol sorry for long post Nathan

hye mate, oi sent that other guy a heap of pics, and a little bit of info on it, PM him and ask him to forward it to you or something, i would, but i CBF, too hung over :P

as for the wheel size debate, i can tel lyou that AE82/AE80's had 13's, AND 14's, 14's i believe were optioal, but they came with BOTH. same again with AE92, pov pack models had 13's, SX/GTi, RV had 14's with smaller tyres. any 4AGE factory car had 14's in hese 2 models

so that was the problem, it was just missing?

i have a few pics of it. WHat exactly do yo uneed to know abut it?? if your not already, join www.twincam.org and www.sydneyrollaclub.com and ask there :wink: will be able ot help heeps as they are from around there :)

i have a feelign it would be alot easier/ cheaper to just redrill your rims to suit it.

sounds like you have a little bit of a clue as too whats going on :) One tip i might give you though :D PLEASE use some kind of paragraphing ;) big blocks of words no matter how well punctuated hurt my head and makes it abuot a million times harder to understand :) Cheers Nathan

I have absolutly no idea, but i think something about the rear end of the head is different, and the intake manifold/carby if it is still attached. but don't ask me what to look for :)