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[aks161084]

Hey I'm fairly new here :ninja: since I just bought a 2003 Corolla Sportivo ZZE-123R 100% stock.

 

just want to verify since the dated threat I saw earlier seems pretty spaced up and not that many people around here.

it would be good to see many of you around here in near future.

 

btw, I would need help in the project of modding my sportivo from the way it is to a supercharged sportivo or more like a TRD sportivo. it would be a pleasure to get any input and feedback regarding this topic :hmm:

 

few to note that the car is 100% stock so no mods has been done to it and hopefully early next year I can commence the project. btw also this is the first car that I will play around with so I have much things to learn beforehand. I had a 300ZX VG30DETT before this but unfortunately I have to sell it due to certain reasons.

 

well on top of that, I would like to hear any opinion and feedback from any of you here :hmm: I will be looking foward to it ^^

[Trev]

The standard output of the ZZE sportivo's is 141kw (More power than any standard 1.8 honda VTEC), A guy at work had a 2005 ZZE sportivo and the only upgrade he did was a TRD cold air induction kit (mounted in front bar), To be honest with you unless you want alot of power i wouldnt worry about forced induction on 1, Instead id look at getting the TRD CAI kit and an exhaust and have a look at the handling/suspension on it as they sit fairly high and I'm not too sure if they get alot of body roll or not, Just my 2c

 

I also have a video of his doin a burnout i can post if your interested (with camera phone) and it sounds pretty tuff from a stock car apart from an air filter upgrade.

[aks161084]

yea 141kw seems impressive with the 1,200kg kerbweight but after driving it for a while, having 1 extra person in the car really makes a difference in the driving and LIFT at 6500rpm doesn't feel as much as just 1 person driving it.

 

I research a bit and ask around that 2003 sportivo can be either turbocharged or supercharged. then I narrowed it down to supercharged coz there is no standard turbo set kit which all come in 1 speciffically for this build. TRD offers a supercharger kit made specially for this 1.8L but thats probably the last thing to do.

 

currently I already placed an order for K&N air filter for Celica which might fit right through the air filter box. takes 2 weeks for the item to come.

 

one other thing is that I would like to try to make the car as stock looking as possible so no fancy mods thats obvious such as the cold air induction. I don't know how much difference can the AEM 21-469 Cold Air Induction brings compared with the K&N square air filter.

 

the original drive gives a lot of body roll as it is. I wouldn't change the suspension to a harder or lower one since it would mean sacrifice to the quality of the ride. I'm trying to squezze more power out of it and better handling without degrating the quality of the ride.

 

what I have planned just briefly would be:

air filter to give more flow

strutbar/swaybar both front and back to enhance handling

whole exhaust manifold cat back and muffler together with ECU tuning or aftermarket one

then probably bigger brake, injector, front grill

 

then the big question is with the supercharger kit, does forged piston is necessary before this step? and what other thing needs to go before this? coz I think the kit for TRD came with all sort of things that goes with the set... and i seen some sources that its possible to SC it the way it is just need to tune or change the whole ECU.

[Trev]

one other thing is that I would like to try to make the car as stock looking as possible so no fancy mods thats obvious such as the cold air induction. I don't know how much difference can the AEM 21-469 Cold Air Induction brings compared with the K&N square air filter.

 

The TRD CAI kit is completly hidden behind the passenger side of the front bar.

 

The TRD S/C Kit is generally comes with everything you need and is a direct bolt on, I don't see a problem with running the stock internals if there was TRD would supply the full kit.

[aks161084]

by putting the CAI kit, I have to remove the whole air intake box out of the way and replace with those pipes and pod right? I saw the piping and its like a U curve so I thought it would go around the side to the front and it would be seen right through. I also seen the Injen short ram air intake IS2080P which sit just on the right side of the engine.

 

I'll see first how much difference these K&N air filter compared to the stock Denzo one. if it is not noticeable enough, then I would try something else on the performance parts before the handling part.

any ideas where to go to tune these kind of car in Perth? thinking of going to Top Speed (Uncle Lee) or KYP (Ben)...

 

and with the TRD SC kit, can I get a genuine one straight from Toyota dealer here in Perth? I doubt it that they couldn't coz there is no TRD specialised dealer here unlike the authorised STI dealers.

 

and the WA / Perth section seems kinda empty -.-;;

[Trev]

by putting the CAI kit, I have to remove the whole air intake box out of the way and replace with those pipes and pod right? I saw the piping and its like a U curve so I thought it would go around the side to the front and it would be seen right through. I also seen the Injen short ram air intake IS2080P which sit just on the right side of the engine.

 

I'll see first how much difference these K&N air filter compared to the stock Denzo one. if it is not noticeable enough, then I would try something else on the performance parts before the handling part.

any ideas where to go to tune these kind of car in Perth? thinking of going to Top Speed (Uncle Lee) or KYP (Ben)...

I had a pic of the ZZE TRD intake but i can't find it so i will try to track 1 down, Here's a link direct to TRD's ZZE123 Page:

 

TRD - ZZE123

 

It also features the TRD CAI Kit:

 

Description:

TRD USA Cold Air Intake

 

TRD is pleased to introduce our first cold air intake kit, It offers up to 11 additional HP and 9 lb. ft of torque. The intake features an aluminum tube, powder-coated in candy apple red with a reusable, high-flow conical air filter. The longer, smoother intake tube improves cylinder fill rates which in turn maximizes power potential. The new Cold Air Intake is fully warranted and emissions legal in all 50 US States. Suitable Model: (ZZE123 / 2ZZ-GE) (Matrix / Sportivo)

 

As far as tuning goes, i don't know what shops are in Perth so i can't help you there.

 

and with the TRD SC kit, can I get a genuine one straight from Toyota dealer here in Perth? I doubt it that they couldn't coz there is no TRD specialised dealer here unlike the authorised STI dealers.

 

You can try as the the toyota dealers we have here in brisbane are TRD sub branches (eg, Ross Llewellyn Motors) so just try a few of your local toyota branches, Toyota Dealer Locator

Edited December 25, 2006 by Trev

[aks161084]

yea thx for the loads of information there :ninja: there is one site that offer a complete product range of TRD stuff from the jap's official TRD but couldn't get the link for it :/

 

I've been looking at the same things but except that its the one directly from japan in english version of it.

total approximate of the TRD conversion cost around 550,000 yen which is AUS$4040 with direct money convert and I would assume a full supercharger kit from the TRD USA catallogue would cost somewhere near the same price or even more.

 

I search some bits and pieces if I want to go for turbo, there is one that might fit to 2ZZ-GE description of small displacement of 1.8L like Garret Ball Bearing GT2860R Turbo which offer 250-300hp for 1.8L-2.7L or a smaller one Garret Ball Bearing GT2560R Turbo which offer 200-280hp with smaller displacement 1.6L-2.5L each costing $1805 and $1438 for the smaller one.

 

I don't know how much will it be in the total cost if I were to fit a turbo stage 1 or probably stage 2 if possible instead of the SC kit. I'm quiet cost concious at the moment since I have not yet found a job since I turned down my last one -.-;;

 

try to take a look at these supercharger with the product code PTR01-02041-15 for '04 corolla manual trans and PTR01-12001-15 for spec kit req... I couldn't get the link coz I'm using my friend's computer since my own com's power supply been surging a lot and keep forced shut down randomly. I believe thats the one from the USA TRD catallogue.

 

I have made a list of plan which are the important things to get first and which not to get. a balance between performance and safety mods at the same time. I will try to do more research and ask around once the holiday is over and hope that I would get some answer on what to do best.

[Dan]

Can't help you on the conversion... but it sounds like it'll be a overrated conversion that I'd love to see sometime :y:

 

Welcome to Rollaclub mate, especially welcome to the WA section :no2: where as you've probably seen, we're as quiet as hell on a cold day...

 

Dan

[AE71Wagon]

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again...

Edited February 10, 2007 by Wood§tok

[aks161084]

wohoo 350hp GT28 is too much of a power for me. I'm looking at a less powerful one prpopbably aiming at the 190-200kw on dyno max if I were to put it in from 141kw standard 2ZZ-GE. (assume there is no other mods done)

 

The thing is I'm not sure if I put a small turbo running at probably max 4-5psi, will the stock engine with stock setting could make it without problems? I would probably do preliminary mods like changing the whole airflow, exhaust manifold and cat, intercooler. I will be looking at minimum mods to be done for a complete functioning turbo'ed car. then in near future, I will put some more work in when possible.

 

whats catching my atention is the TRD Supercharger kit comes with all the stuff I need and best thing is that its BOLT ON :y:

I would like to make a quote on how much it will cost in total including shipping. Then how much labor it will required to make a full instalation since I won't be doing it manually myself to reduce risk that I stuff up the thing. I'm getting K&N Panel Air filter next week. Then probably will get the whole TRD exhaust system (bolt on too) at the same time with the SC kit then will install both. It can be run with the factory ECU thats why I'm leaning towards the SC. it might be less in the total cost unlike turbo where I take different things and bits and pieces from anywhere.

 

which is more worth it? complete TRD conversion or added supercharger?

 

the list for TRD parts can be found here http://www.trdparts.jp/english/list_zze.html

 

http://www.toyotaworld.com/trdsupercharger.html

with the item code 00602-17620-102

 

Adding a supercharger then tweak the handling a bit for driving comfort seems to be more interesting to me but any opinion and suggestion always welcome :no2:

[AE71Wagon]

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Edited February 10, 2007 by Wood§tok

[aks161084]

with the TRD conversion, it all can be done according to the steps. it does not require anything else other than what listed there, so fuel system can be left stock.

 

with the Supercharger, the kit include all the necessary stuff in it. If I'm not wrong, it include the injector as well so it all comes in batch. so what I want to confirm is if the bolt on SC kit can be installed regardless of everything remain stock. (maybe except air filter and exhaust since I will be doing it shortly)

 

and it can run with the stock ECU and I already confirm it.

 

So the step I was planning to do before supercharging it would be:

 

1. Sports air filter

2. High response muffler Ver.S

3. Exhaust manifold for 2ZZ-GE

4. Tower Bar

5. Suspension member brace

6. Brake Pad front&rear

7. Mechanical LSD

8. Sports Thermosat, Sports Oil Filter and Radiator Cap

9. TRD 1.8L Supercharger kit

 

correct me if I'm missing anything that should be there or the effective order of it.

Edited December 28, 2006 by aks161084

[AE71Wagon]

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Edited February 10, 2007 by Wood§tok

[aks161084]

wohooo I just found out to get and for the mechanical LSD for this particular car can cost up to $2k or maybe more and doesn't really makes a big differences without much power puts into it so thats probably will be out of the list..

 

now I will try to stick closely to the plan and starts quotting and enquiring price associated to each parts.

 

1. Sports air filter ($108.00)

2. High response muffler Ver.S {approximately together maybe }

3. Exhaust manifold for 2ZZ-GE {cost somewhere ~$1,200-$1,400}

4. Complete Tower Bar (front top bottom & rear) (~$240.00)

5. Suspension member brace

6. Brake Pad front&rear

7. Complete Fuel system (~$300.00)

8. Sports Thermosat, Sports Oil Filter and Radiator Cap

9. TRD 1.8L Supercharger kit (MP62 ~$3,495 US? need some more info)

 

and also I would like to ask if with AVCR, can it reset the VVT LIFT points instead of kicks in at 7,000 RPM maybe somewhere around 4,000 or 4,500 RPM? coz to reach up to 7,000 RPM where the LIFT kicks in, it takes way too long and I would be speeding like hell before I can even feel the boost. so instead of going all the troubles of supercharging or turbocharging it, I could play around it. Probably if its possible, the Stroker kit for 1.8L to 2.0L conversion is available for 2ZZ and it might be worth considering and if it turns out to be a cheaper alternative with similar amount of power gain, then I might consider.

 

coz with turbocharge, if I ever got into trouble of going through pits, it might be hard to get away with it. not sure abt supercharge. I seen some Honda Jazz turbo around Willetton and looks awesome with nice body kit and front mount intercooler. tempted to do the same with sportivo but see how it goes first.

 

any info that u could share with me regarding the above enquiries would be greatly appreciated guys :y:

[irokin]

and also I would like to ask if with AVCR, can it reset the VVT LIFT points instead of kicks in at 7,000 RPM maybe somewhere around 4,000 or 4,500 RPM?

 

AVCR is the "Actuator valve controller type R". Its a boost controller nothing more. The VAFC (not SAFC) is a piggyback fuel computer and was made for VTEC but you miiight be able to get it to work with VVT if you understand how its wired in.