Hiro Protagonist Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 So, as some of you may remember, I recently aquired a 4KEU electronic distributor and coil to go into Billie. Whilst being from a 4K, it had the internal ignitor and seems to be identical to the 5K electronic distributor (maybe someone needs to update the FAQ?). Anyhoo, after pulling out the distributor on the spare parts car (Lemon/Pineapple), it appears that there is only one low tension wire running to the distributor, as per the Gregorys wiring diagram, yet the electronic dizzy has two wires, one black and one black with a brown stripe. Obviously one of these needs to go to the negative side of the coil, but where does the other one go? Positive side? Ground? Any and all help would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corolla_Kid Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 This has been covered many times. But anyway black wire goes to -ve side of coil and black with orange stripe goes to +ve side of coil. What sort of coil are you using? Their incredibly easy to wreck if you use the wrong coil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 I hope my coil is ok that I'm using since you've jus said that. Is a GT40R ok to use with one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corolla_Kid Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 I've been told the OEM denso coil is the one to use. But saying that i've never seen one and I'm really not sure which bosch one (if their is even one) that you can use instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist Posted March 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 I've got an Echlin GX-80R coil, came with the dizzy, heard that they're pretty decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 the "R" on both the GT40R and GX-80R is short for resistor, ie they are to be used with a ballast resistor. A straight GT40 is run at 12v all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist Posted March 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 the "R" on both the GT40R and GX-80R is short for resistor, ie they are to be used with a ballast resistor. A straight GT40 is run at 12v all of the time. Pretty sure there's a resistor in the car standard anyway, at least according to the wiring diagram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 I'm running my ballast resistor. I just don't wanna fry the dizzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolla__Boy Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 My elec dizzy was wired up without a resistor, and a GT40, and I used it for years, and never had a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist Posted April 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 My elec dizzy was wired up without a resistor, and a GT40, and I used it for years, and never had a problem Seems there are resistor and non-resistor versions of the GT40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Thats what I explained above.....GT40 and GT40R. It make no difference to the dizzy what you use, but if you use no ballast resitor with a GT40R you will fry the coil really quick. If you use a ballast resistor with a GT40, it will most likely struggle to make proper spark. For anybody who does know, this is what a ballast resistor does: When under normal driving conditions, with the engine running, obviously with the key position as ON, the power that the coil draws from the battery (12v) runs through the ballast resistor, which drops the voltage to the coil to 6v. ONLY when you turn the key to the START position is the ballast resistor bypassed, and hence gives a 12v power source to the coil to help the engine start. The coil will tolerate 12v in small doses when starting, but if it is constantly run on 12v when its a "resistor type coil" it will burn out very quick. Having known how a ballast resistor actually works I have used one somewhere else in my car. I am currently using a VL turbo fuel pump, which makes too much pressure and flow for a carby 4k......so, I wired a ballast resistor into the power source to that fuel pump, and hence halved its flow and pressure by halving its voltage!!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corolla_Kid Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 So what you are saying taz is that a gt40 will be fine with an electric dizzy? If thats the case it would seem ive been misinformed. :kiwi: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 What type of coil to use with what type of dizzies are basically irrelevant. What is important is using a ballast resistor with a coil that requires one. so to answer your question: Yes its fine to use a GT40 with a electronic dizzy, as long as you don't use a resistor. But, yes, you can also use a GT40R with an elec. dizzy, as long as you do use a resistor. The "R" bit is all you really have to worry about. What were you told!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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