Ke70 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I went to start her yesterday and it took about 10 - 15 seconds to finally kick over. I left it running for a few minutes just to warm it up then turned it off and tried starting it again. Didn't want to start so i thought could be the battery so i went and put a new battery in but even now when you turn the key it wont even make an attempt at making the noise that its kicking over..It just turns and nothing happens what so ever. Anyone know what it could be? I'm thinking rooted starter motor? thanks Rhys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budowski Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I went to start her yesterday and it took about 10 - 15 seconds to finally kick over. I left it running for a few minutes just to warm it up then turned it off and tried starting it again. Didn't want to start so i thought could be the battery so i went and put a new battery in but even now when you turn the key it wont even make an attempt at making the noise that its kicking over..It just turns and nothing happens what so ever. Anyone know what it could be? I'm thinking rooted starter motor? thanks Rhys so the engine will rotate underbattery power to the starter motor ?, but will not fire to run off fuel ? have you checked you have a point gap inside the distributor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anastasios Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 yea could be the starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilli Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 the concept you need to familiarise with here is that the motor is turning over, so the starter motor and battery are doing their jobs, however the motor wont fire up; the fuel being poored in wont ignite. So my bet is check you ignition system as Budowski said above... leads, dizzy, points, sparkies, coil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke70 Posted April 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 so the engine will rotate underbattery power to the starter motor ?, but will not fire to run off fuel ?have you checked you have a point gap inside the distributor ? nope, the whole car is recieving power from the battery when you turn the key to on but when you go to the next point to actually start the engine nothing happens..the only noise the car is making is that of the key turning in the ignition..the engine wont even make a noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budowski Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 nope, the whole car is recieving power from the battery when you turn the key to on but when you go to the next point to actually start the engine nothing happens..the only noise the car is making is that of the key turning in the ignition..the engine wont even make a noise. so you mean to say the engine will not rotate eg starter motor not turning engine ? Checked all fuses? Also check that the main thick power cable to one of the terminals on the starter motor<solenoid> has good connection and the lil solenoid wire is connected/clean ...not broken off. Care must be taken because these terminals are copper and may snap off then ull definately need either a new starter motor/seconhand. also using the factory wheel brace the long bar and tap the side of the solenoid/starter while a mate turns the key it may be sticking. If that doesnt work put in gear if manual and rock car bar and fourth starter may be seized to the flywheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilSlvrRolla Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) Hey, Try giving the starter motor a thump. It sounds just like what my falcon used to do. Stuck starter motor solenoid. Get a long flat head screwdriver, put it on the starter motor solenoid and get someone to crank the engine while you give it a few whacks. Hard, but make sure the screwdrivers on the solenoid housing. don't want it to slip and break something else. Should eventually crank... It could just be a cactus solenoid that needs replacing. I haven't actually had the joy of looking at mine yet, it was brand new when I got the car lol. Ethan Edited April 25, 2008 by LilSlvrRolla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmac80 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) this happened to my car... i replaced my starter and about two months later it happened again. i ended up fitting a relay on the starter to bypass the ignition coil and this worked a treat! the idea behind this is that as the car electrical system gets old the electrical resistance increases. because of this the ignition coil can't give anough signal or power to get your starter running! the tell tale signs are clicking and no starting.. and when its completely f'd nothing happens! If this is the problem its easy and cheap to fix... check this link. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/faq/inde...a/starter-relay Edited April 25, 2008 by blackrolla80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medicine_Man Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Hey, Try giving the starter motor a thump. It sounds just like what my falcon used to do. Stuck starter motor solenoid. Get a long flat head screwdriver, put it on the starter motor solenoid and get someone to crank the engine while you give it a few whacks. Hard, but make sure the screwdrivers on the solenoid housing. don't want it to slip and break something else. Should eventually crank... It could just be a cactus solenoid that needs replacing. I haven't actually had the joy of looking at mine yet, it was brand new when I got the car lol. Ethan This frees the brushes, has nothing to do with freeing a solenoid.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilli Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 yep now that the motor wont even tyurn over, give the starter motor a couple of bangs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medicine_Man Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 get someone to key the motor over while you tap the starter near where the brush holder is housed, if it starts to crank while doing this good chance your brushes are sticking or low.. Don't hit near the permanent magnets or the solenoid or you can further damage the starter.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke70 Posted April 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 get someone to key the motor over while you tap the starter near where the brush holder is housed, if it starts to crank while doing this good chance your brushes are sticking or low.. Don't hit near the permanent magnets or the solenoid or you can further damage the starter.. rough photo of what to hit? :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medicine_Man Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Circled in red is where the brush assembly is housed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilSlvrRolla Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Hah :yes: I won't listen to a holden expert again then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke70 Posted April 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 thanks man ill get back to you tomorrow after i give her a wack in the daylight to see where I'm going. heaps of help everyone thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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