philbey Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I am thinking it would still outlive a brand new Great Wall car over the next 10 years, both in value and reliability :yes: yes and yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappo12 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 just for the record I'm not going to buy one or ever would buy one. just wanted to no what people think the guy on the tv add said there not good there great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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clubby2084 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I been looking into these things and it seems every model is a bit of a mutt. The SA220 ute is a Navara, the V240 is a Isuzu Rodeo. The passenger SUV, the X240 is a Isuzu exterior over a old 4 Runner chassis with Toyota drivetrain. Depending on it being diesel or petrol, 4 or 6, will depend on where the motor comes from. Nissan, Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Toyota all provide engines and gearboxes for various models. As I said, a real bitsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Nissan, Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Toyota all provide engines and gearboxes for various models. I seriously doubt any of those companies provide jack shit. They'll all be knock off designs. How would it possibly be in their best interest to provide drivetrains for this POS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I seriously doubt any of those companies provide jack shit. They'll all be knock off designs. Exactly. China doesn't give a crap about copyright, patents or licencing of designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I saw a guy towing his massively expensive boat the other day behind one of these Great Wall cars. Perhaps if he spent a little less on the boat he could have been able to afford a real tow car HAHA. I know who your talking about. I wouldnt buy one of these either. Ugly POS's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.L.Z.BUB Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 They look worse than a Ssang Syong Musso, and that's a pretty freakin terrible vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeAE71 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 HAHA. I know who your talking about. I wouldnt buy one of these either. Ugly POS's As I said to you it is a good thing I didn't abuse him for buying said car :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 As I said to you it is a good thing I didn't abuse him for buying said car :P He's a tool. Maybe if he wasnt dropped on his head so many times he woulda made a better choice of car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubby2084 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I seriously doubt any of those companies provide jack shit. They'll all be knock off designs. How would it possibly be in their best interest to provide drivetrains for this POS? Easy answer $$$. Old tools and engine castings are sold off to the highest bidder. Big manufacturers want to make money back on tools they'll never use again, so along comes Great Wall, or Ssang Syong (Mercedes Benz engines and gearboxes), Proton (originally Mitsubishi), Kia (originally Mazda). Hyundai got it's start using Mitsubishi Lancer engines. And look how far they progressed :P (Sorry I couldn't resist that cheap shot) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Easy answer $$$. I think you underestimate just how expensive a crate engine and gearbox is, even with volume discounts. Considering these things are selling for $18k on road, in my opinion, its not possible to have a Japanese motor in it. Besides, each of those companies has their own ute. Why would you dilute the market even further? They'd make more money by NOT supplying engines and keeping this vehicle from having any ounce of credibility. The only one I might believe is Isuzu but I still doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubby2084 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I think you underestimate just how expensive a crate engine and gearbox is, even with volume discounts. Considering these things are selling for $18k on road, in my opinion, its not possible to have a Japanese motor in it. Besides, each of those companies has their own ute. Why would you dilute the market even further? They'd make more money by NOT supplying engines and keeping this vehicle from having any ounce of credibility. The only one I might believe is Isuzu but I still doubt it. Believe it, or don't. Just Google... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 $19,990 ute = knockoff 4Y $26,990 ute = licenced 4G69 making a pathetic 100kw. You can bet they'd rip off the 4G too if mitsubishi didn't have their fist so far up canberras arse. From what I can gather some of the more expensive SUVs they sell in europe have an actual mitsubishi engine, no doubt due to emissions, but we certainly don't have them here (yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubby2084 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 And no it's not a 4Runner. Made by Great Wall and it's called, Safe (no, really). Hmmm, it's a knock off. I wonder how much they spent on crash testing ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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