Any hints for billet cams, hi comp pistons, and other hi-pe parts for silvertop or blacktop engine.

 

Plases to buy, dudes to talk, etc. =)

 

Some things in mind: +11.5/1 cr, hi lift/race spec N7A cams, cam gears, valve springs, rods, arp or other manufacturer bolts all around, engine management (fuel+ignition standalone), exhaust manifolds, etc, etc.

 

NO vvti or stock ecu bull.. :thumbsup:

personally my favorite 4ag cams are the N1 rally cams, they're an old trd item and i don't think they're stocked anymore, but the timings are out there, so you could get them made up from billet blanks if you were serious

Check out http://www.todaracing.com. I sent off an enquiry about cams and got a response from the Australian division. Cams are expensive, but take your pick of profile and lift options. Mmm, 304-degree cams with 9.0mm of lift. Their range for the 16-valve motor is better, as you can go up to a 320-degree, 10.8mm lift cam. Can you imagine how peaky the little bastard would be?

 

If you want info on their range, email TODA but make sure you tell them you're in Australia. Their Oz rep gave me some great help and assistance.

 

Just so you know, the Australian prices I was given on 16-valve cams were:

7.9mm-9.0mm lift camshafts (pair): $1075

10.3mm-10.8mm lift camshafts (pair): $1490

Vernier adjustable cam pulleys (pair): $450

Up-rated valve springs (set): $210 (required for lift of 8.5mm or more)

Inner shim kit: $1525 (required for lift of 9.0mm or more)

 

The TODA bloke actually offered me direct shipping to save money, meaning that a set of 7.9mm-9.0mm camshafts would be $885 instead of $1075. A considerable saving.

 

BTW, remember those prices are for 16-valve cams. Compare the American prices on the US TODA site and you'll see that 20-valve cams cost about 20% more (funny that).

I'm pretty sure you could get all internal parts through any rebuilder.

I work at Redlands Engines (Recon. Engines) and they get in forged pistons, rods, arp rod bolts and so on. I'm not too sure about things like cams but I'm sure most places would be willing to help you out...

 

(Sorry I don't know more, I only worked there for 3 weeks)

 

Damien

Edited August 24, 200521 yr by 10_ROLA

pointless input from me.

 

i went to the last toymods dyno day. there was a sprinter with a rebuilt 20v 4age.

 

pumped up 122.6 rwkw....thats a beafy bloody engine for a 1.6 NA...

 

apparently he had most of the cusco catalogue put in.

Anything under 200hp at wlywheel is not an option... :thumbsup:

no thats at the wheels. which would probably be around 170 at the fly.

 

first mate...i hope u got plenty of $$$ coz to keep this engine N/A and get those figures...ur gunna need the dosh.

 

good luck mate.

200hp atw wheels in a n/a 4age will cost like $20k.

the atlantic engines run 240ish at the fly and they are about that cost.

200hp atw wheels in a n/a 4age will cost like $20k.

the atlantic engines run 240ish at the fly and they are about that cost.

Yes i know this.

Folks run 16v 4a-g:s at +230hp at fly and 20v:s at sprint races go past 240hp at fly. So ifi want race seriously i have to be close there, right? :thumbsup:

but they do it so cheap in the cartoons! :thumbsup:

Give Mark Yager at Yager Race Engines in Alstonville a call, he can sort you out with a proper race 20V. Not cheap at all though.

 

 

Getting decent power from the motor is a lot easier witha bit more displacement. These guys do a nice stroker kit: http://www.speedracersportscars.com.au/stroker.htm

no, in reference to their 4age 20V and 7age 20V race motors used in the improved production series etc.

 

Chris O'Shannessy's race car is now tuned at Yager too.

 

If I was going to pay someone in Aus for a serious NA A series, it would be Yager.

Give Mark Yager at Yager Race Engines in Alstonville a call,

Ummm... Does they have a e-mail adress? :lol:

If i call them, they will ship me an carbie when i wanted a cam, or something like that.. ;D

Some tech help an good parts is what i need, not the work. Still have this handicap, that living up here, not down there.. :cool:

lol, as i sit here at my desk, i'm looking out the window at yager's workshop :cool:

yager or simon chapman :cool:

 

i saw one of yagers creations at qr about a month or so ago...made a nice mess in my pants :lol: