camerondownunder88

Hi All, Today I picked up a working 5 speed gear box out of a KE70 for $50 (has the rest of a car hanging off it but..lol) I want to install this into my KE30 that currently runs a 3K and a 4 speed box. So my main question is to fit it ill I need to remove the engine or can it go in from under neath? Also I know I have to cut the shifter hole back more but will this mean I need a shorter tail shaft? Also will this gear box bolt up to a 3K motor no problem or is the input shaft etc different? Thanks Cameron P.S. once I got the box out the car the car will be for sale and my parents said it can sit in the yard for 2 weeks so if anyone near ipswich wants a good KE70 (blown diff. But has had head work to motor) make me and offer and ill let you know when you can pick it up.

Hi, I know in the photo it isnt a geminni but I was thinking of buying one. I want a diesel mainly for economy and torque not brute power. IF I wanted that I could get my uncels 16L worm V8 diesel motor with twin turbos and a super charger on it to power the rolla as he is selling it right now :dance: So I was mainly looking to know has anyone done an engine change or something like this guy has at that web page in an old style corolla and can they take it? cameron

Hi, The main reason is that I would love to make a corolla diesel powered and do it up as something different. As I was initally looking to sell my KE30 and get a gemmini diesel. But then at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Corolla I saw there was a diesel corolla made in the years between 1984-87 with a diesel motor and the motor was a 1C. This was the first generation of rolla to see the diesel motor (it was fifth gen of rolla but) and in the sixth gen it also saw this motor. But this time it was the 1C-III and made 67HP I know a K block could not handle the compression of a diesel but can we get one of the 1C motors and work it into a KEXX corolla? As the 1C motor produced 58HP and was 1.8L in displacement. I would thing for an engine change like this you would need to strengthen the front end of a rolla to handle the added weight of the motor but also the torque created by a diesel. Thanks Cameron

Hi, I happen to be reading some where on the net that the old KEXX series corolla was released with a diesel motor in it. I was wondering is this true and if so are they rare to pick up? Also does anyone know if the liteace that used the K series motor ever came with a diesel motor if it did can we place this into our corollas if they didn't have a diesel motor from the factory? Cameron

Hi, All of a sudden people are now saying not to use a 3K head on a 4K motor? Why? As if you increase your compression you get more power on the cheap. And at the rate a 3K head can be collected at the wreckers why not do it? As what are the down falls of using one? Also one of you said if you jet your carby right you will not get detonation. But at a 10:1 ration a 3K head will give you on a 4K motor if I'm right the air in the cylinder will be so hot the fuel will be burning before the piston is TDC. So giving you car more fuel is this cooling the air more so it isn't detonating the fuel? Or is this to run it rich so the stoichiometric ration is to high and it can't burn easy? As if any of these options are right I would thing you are losing valuable kilowatts when we all ready only have a hand full. So my point was to try and make a water injection system like used on the old morris minor and then run up the compression. This will enable us to jet our carby's to the closest we can get to the perfect stoichiometric ratio of 15:1 and stop the detonation. The water mist will also just up compression more so if we went this way we could get maximum power out of a 4K with increased compression instead of trying to suppress detonation and losing power in the process. And then what is the point of using a 3K head? Also does anyone have any in depth info on water injection? Cameron P.S. Just so some of you know we can't burn fuel at the perfect stoichiometric ratio in a motor as it would burn so hot it would melt every metal we could make a motor out of. I know as I build jet engines and well we can burn it close but not spot (even in jets) lol

Hi All, I am looking at modifying a 4K motor to put in to a KE30. But I see when people put the 3K head on the 4K motor it goes to 10:1 CR. With this do you guys have to use high octain fuel or do you use the standard pump fuel? Also in morris minors they had a water mist injection to stop detonation. If we use a CR of 10:1 could we use this set up so we only need to use standard fuel if we don't want to or can't afford high octain unleaded at 98? Cameron

Hi All, I am looking at modifying a 4K motor to put in to a KE30. But I see when people put the 3K head on the 4K motor it goes to 10:1 CR. With this do you guys have to use high octain fuel or do you use the standard pump fuel? Also in morris minors they had a water mist injection to stop detonation. If we use a CR of 10:1 could we use this set up so we only need to use standard fuel if we don't want to or can't afford high octain unleaded at 98? Cameron

Yes sorry my last post went in wrong place I'm not used to this type of forum..lol I usually use yahoo. Cameron

Hi, Nice work on the rolla in the photos with the celica box going in. I think I would rather stay with the K range of motors so it is easier to get rego as in QLD if u put wild seat covers on u risk having to up grade your car to make it legal it is so tight..lol But I was able to find a good wrecker in Ipswich today that sells a fair amount of corolla stuff so I am trying to get an old KE1X or KE2X from him as I like them more as there lighter so faster. But I saw one guy said that he was at willobank once and couldn't get a box to ft in his rolla. Do you guys meet at Willowbank as I am a 10 minute drive away so would love to pop in one day? Also with the distributor off the 5K motor will it fit into a 3K with no hassle eg gear on end of shaft ratio..etc as I want to go electric dizzy in rolla to ditch points . And I have heard from some people that the end of the run KE70 with the 4K did get some electric ignition modules in them is this true? Thanks Cameron

hi, On my 3K I tied string around the oil cap and to the air intake filter holder. If it pops off (regulary) it stays on and if the string is in the right spot it gets agood tight seal and doesnt come off. But for $4 at the local super cheap I can get a oil breather for car all chrome and it is filled with air filter foam and lets fuems vent? will this be good or am i loosing valuble pressure I need in the head area on the rockers? cameron

Hi, Nice work on the rolla in the photos with the celica box going in. I think I would rather stay with the K range of motors so it is easier to get rego as in QLD if u put wild seat covers on u risk having to up grade your car to make it legal it is so tight..lol But I was able to find a good wrecker in Ipswich today that sells a fair amount of corolla stuff so I am trying to get an old KE1X or KE2X from him as I like them more as there lighter so faster. But I saw one guy said that he was at willobank once and couldn't get a box to ft in his rolla. Do you guys meet at Willowbank as I am a 10 minute drive away so would love to pop in one day? Also with the distributor off the 5K motor will it fit into a 3K with no hassle eg gear on end of shaft ratio..etc as I want to go electric dizzy in rolla to ditch points . And I have heard from some people that the end of the run KE70 with the 4K did get some electric ignition modules in them is this true? Thanks Cameron

Hi, Thanks for all the replies. Unfortunately my friends mum wont let him sell the corolla in pieces no more ;) but a whole car, but for whole KE30 he wants $300 not bad but. I got my corolla..lol So I went to the wrecker and asked for a 4K motor. They had one minus carby, distributor and pollution gear (no loss.lol) $380. GET REAL. So for now ill stick with my 3K motor. As I see the 4K is only 200cc bigger. As I am short on money so ill leave it for now. But I was curious to know is the 4K just a bored out 3K block or did Toyota redo a whole new block? And does anyone know of a person in the Brisbane district that has an old KE1X or KE2X that would have one for sale? As I prefer the body shape and there smaller so I would like to do one of these up. Also reading at Wiki the 2T-G motor produced 124HP in the KE30. Can these motors fit onto the K40 trans or were they a different transition? As I would like to get one day an old KE1x/KE2X and have a hot 4K or 5K motor in it or if possible with minimal hassle a 2T-G motor. But for my final question the 5K to install legally into my car I need to upgrade brakes but can go to a 4K with no changes so for power would it really be worth adding a 5K motor to the car? And can it be done up as much? Or if possible has anyone used a 7K? Thanks Cameron

Hi rolla fans, About 3 months ago now I was given a KE30 rolla with a 3K motor in it sporting a 100% stock parts and a K40 trans and standard axle. But the car has 375,000 KM on it and has never had a rebuild and is still going good and blows no smoke. But it is starting to die now :) As in a cold morning I can run battery flat starting and it has lost nearly all power and the clutch is heavily worn. So I figured time for a rebuild but then though it easier to install a new motor. I was able to pick up a 4K that has 100,00Km on it and a 6 spring racing clutch after market hardened valve seat and a minor head shave for AU$50. But first a few questions. It was mounted on a 5 speed box so will the input shaft fit my 4 speed box? Also my KE30 is a 1976 I think off top of head and it is from a KE70 built in 83 so will it all go in? Also I noticed the pollution control on the motor is a nightmare. Can I use the one of my KE30 motor that is horrendously simple compare to it? And when removing the 4K motor from the donor car is the anti pollution system hooked into any body bits or can i leave it untouched on body? Also for future mods can I just remove the timing chains from the 3K and place on the 4K motor and the head with easy and no fuss? Also what model K motor had the electronic ignition as I want to ditch the points system as they are a shit of a thing to work with. Also if I use my 3K head on motor what HP will I expect to see from the motor? Thanks Cameron