basher_ke20 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 does anyone know if i can get a log book from rollaclub so i can get historic rego on my car thanks chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KE30_KE35_KE55 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 does anyone know if i can get a log book from rollaclub so i can get historic rego on my carthanks chris I have 4 vehicles on Historic Registration. Rolla club is not a member of the federation of historical motoring clubs , but we could Apply to the federation for the club to be autherised. here is some information. CONDITIONAL REGISTRATION SCHEME FOR HISTORIC AND PRESCRIBED LEFT HAND DRIVE VEHICLES CLUB RESPONSIBILITES AND PROCEEDURES With regard to the ongoing lack of understanding of Recognised Clubs responsibilities of the procedures to issue Log Books and to keep appropriate records of Log Books issued to Club Members, the Federation has detailed below recommended procedures. 1. Vehicle Verification Officers Only Club Members authorised by Transport SA with a current certificate can issue a MR334 Vehicle Verification Form. (a) Is owner a financial member of your club? (Check with Club Treasurer or sight current club membership card). (b) All vehicle details should be checked and MR334 completed as necessary with a Residential Address. (P.O. Box No. only used as postal address). This is to stop interstate residents poaching on our system. Only South Australian residents are eligible for our conditional registration system. © Any approved variations to be noted on MR334 at the time of inspection. (d) Fill in a Vehicle History Sheet with Member's Name, Address, Vehicle details and Date MR334 issued and any approved variations in the Comments Column. (e) Give MR334 Form to Member to take to Transport SA to apply for Conditional Registration. (f) Give History Sheet to your Club's Authorised Registrar who issues Log Books. Show any approved variations. (g) Retain Club copies of all MR16 and MR334's issued. NOTE: Vehicle should be physically sighted (not a photograph), so accurate assessment can be made. There have been queries re: Other Clubs checking vehicles for a remote member. Feedback was negative to that suggestion for various reasons. The Federation believes any member of a recognised club should bring the vehicle to the Authorisation Officer at an agreed time and place. Via a day permit or transport by trailer or similar. The small cost involved is outweighed significantly by the savings between full registration and conditional registration as well as possible savings in insurance and stamp duty. But this can be sorted at Member /Club level. 2. Club Registrars Only Club Members authorized by their Club and whose names have been notified to Transport SA on Club Letterhead can issue and endorse Log Books. E.g. Unless authorised as above Club Treasurers, Secretaries etc. CAN NOT issue or endorse Membership Pages of Log Books. (a) Does the owner of the vehicle normally reside in South Australia? If not. Do not go any further. (b) Is owner a Financial Member of your Club? (Check with Treasurer or sight current membership card) © Before issuing a Log Book check that your Club approved the initial conditional registration, if not, have your Club Verification Officer issue a MR334. (d) Check Certificate of Registration and Club Records that a Log Book has not already been issued to this vehicle. (e) If Member has come from another Club with a Log Book issued by the other Club and wants to have a Log Book issued by your Club. The Member must first have the old Log Book cancelled by the issuing Club. Then produce it (cancelled) to your (Club Registrar) before a new Log Book can be issued. BUT the vehicle should be verified by your Club Verification Officer and an MR334 issued first, even if vehicle is already registered. (f) Fill in Replacement Date on Front Cover three (3) years forward from date of issue. (g) Fill in Owner and Vehicle Details as per current registration papers and stamp where indicated. Get owner to sign book. (h) Fill in Membership Year as necessary (or part year if member joined part way through year) and stamp where indicated and Club Registrar to sign. (i) Fill in Registration expiry date. (j) Any Approved Variations on History Sheet should be listed on Variations Page in back of Log Book (use one of the notes pages on early issue Log Books) and stamp with Club Stamp immediately after last entry and Club Registrar to Sign off. (k) If replacing a Log Book part way through a Registration Year for whatever reason; Don't forget to transfer any used days for the current Registration Year to the new Log Book i.e. Rule out lines as required and note reason in Log Book. (l) Fill in History Sheet with Log Book Number, Issue Date, Registration Expiry Date and Current Membership status. Use comments column for notations e.g. Variations, Old Log Book cancelled / New Log Book issued, Vehicle sold, Non Financial - Transport SA notified etc. NOTE: Clubs only have to notify Transport SA if the member is unfinancial after two (2) months from end of Club Year if a current Log Book is issued to said member. (Current means any Log Book that has not been cancelled. Information required by Transport SA - Owners Name and Address and Log Book No/s. and most important the Registration No/s. of Vehicle/s. (m) Stamp rear of Registration Papers with Club Stamp and write Log Book No. issued and Date issued and Club Registrar to sign. This must be done again when the registration is renewed. (n) Enter Log Book No. + Owner + Vehicle details on Log Book Return Sheet in Numerical Order please. Suggestion When Log Books are received from the Federation fill in Log Book Numbers on the Blank Return Sheets supplied with your Log Books IN NUMERICAL ORDER then Club Record keeping will be very easy. It will also help the Federation reconcile their records efficiently. See enclosed notes re: Log Book Orders and Return Sheets. (o) Send in Return Sheets to the Historic Vehicle Manager's address annually in September or October or when ordering Log Books which ever is earlier. Recommend that large clubs send in Return Sheets as and when they fill a Return Sheet completely. Even if you have only issued one Log Book for year, send in a Return Sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher_ke20 Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 ok thanks what clubs in sa u recon then thanks chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KE30_KE35_KE55 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 ok thanks what clubs in sa u recon thenthanks chris PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 We're not actually a club per se and will never be one so its unlikely to ever happen. In fact its more likely it will be registered as a business in the next few months to make my/our legal position more clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ's Rollas Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 It is really not that hard to become a member of the federation of historical motoring clubs. There's just a lot of paperwork to do, but once it's all done, the benifits are amazing, and historic vehicle rego is just one of the advantages of being a registered car club. I'd be really keen to see rollaclub heading in this direction. KJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drc_ke20 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 It is really not that hard to become a member of the federation of historical motoring clubs.There's just a lot of paperwork to do, but once it's all done, the benifits are amazing, and historic vehicle rego is just one of the advantages of being a registered car club. I'd be really keen to see rollaclub heading in this direction. KJ. downside is you cannot drive your car on everyday situation only on event or club meets??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbey Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Not in SA. You get a logbook which allows 90 days per year of driving, you need to fill it out (Date, Destination, signature) before driving and carry it in the vehicle at all times. I'm a member of the Sporting Car Club of SA, membership for under 28s is very cheap. The car you own probably won't be a concern either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drc_ke20 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Not in SA. You get a logbook which allows 90 days per year of driving, you need to fill it out (Date, Destination, signature) before driving and carry it in the vehicle at all times. I'm a member of the Sporting Car Club of SA, membership for under 28s is very cheap. The car you own probably won't be a concern either. i wish i live in SA! mom can we move to south australia.....mom said "NO"..... :lolcry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KE30_KE35_KE55 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 i wish i live in SA!mom can we move to south australia.....mom said "NO"..... :lolcry: Talking to other motoring enthusiast's from interstate, SA has the best historic registration system in Australia other states are looking at copying, Further information can be found for each State at the National Federation of historic motoring clubs, http://www.motoring.org.au/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeLJ Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 different car clubs have different regs when it comes to the club rego too. Some clubs limit you to club runs, others will be fine if you simply ring and tell them where you are heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverra23 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Victoria's rules for club rego are determined by Vicroads generally, not the club. They insist that the event you are driving to/at is tabled on the club calendar and of course your car has to be 25 years plus old, and in a road worthy state. That said different clubs have different approaches on what kind of car you can put on historic plates. TCCA here in Victoria will allow some mods as long as the car is safe for use on public roads, but many clubs insist the car is all original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeLJ Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm not saying that the club decides on the overall conditions, but some are willing to endorse your run to a mates place more then others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ's Rollas Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I seriously think it is something rollaclub should look into. ask the president of another car club how to go about it, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to help out. You gotta start somewhere, and there's soo many nice classic cars out there that don't get driven every day, and their owners are paying normal rego costs when they could be paying a whole lot less for the same amount of driving they do. Cheers, KJ :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeLJ Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 It would be a lot of work for very little gain for the owners/admin of rollaclub though. And with such a varied (in terms of location) range of members, it would be one big nightmare. If you are chasing club rego, it would be worth simply phoning your local clubs and joining up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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