Guest Brad Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Hey Guys, As most of you know i own a KE35 Corolla, it blows blue smoke on start up and when the engine is cold and I'm not even "racing" it, my old man thinks that it could be the valve guides, the 3K has only done 130,000KM can any one help me? Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 As i said before it might have gone around the clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 ONLY 130,000k? theyre only supposed to last 100,000 (although its debatable). Newer motors (i.e. 1990ish onwards) will last 300,000km+. I wouldnt worry about it. Drive it till it starts blowing dickloads of blue smoke all the time. K motors are cheap. Alternatively try some Penrite HPR40. Its very thick (25w70 I love it to death) and should reduce the oil consumption somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Jamie Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 yeah, it's usually the valve guides that go. couple of hundred bucks and a head gasket should fix you up, or heads are usually $80 (tops) from the wreckers, but 3k heads are getting hard to find. i would consider just swapping a good 4k wrecker motor in if you're going to spend the money, it'll work out about the same as getting your 3k head fixed, just a bit more work and how about you stay away from penrite because it's dog's balls. pennzoil "older engine oil" will last longer, as it's a straight weight mineral oil, and won't break down under bad conditions like a variable weight synthetic oil will of course you could always just put $6.99 kmart oil in it, and not throw good money at an already lost cause :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Penrite isnt synthetic. Its a mineral oil just like pennzoil. I get a clean 5000 odd km out of it. Lasts titloads longer than bloody castrol oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1G-GTE KE70 Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 white smoke = burning oil blue smoke = burning petrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 colours are very very debatable. Considering petrol is refined out of OIL. Also the colour will change according to temperature. Ive seen very black oil smoke right through to a grey/white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwarf Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Must admit, I was always partial to the really thick Penrite stuff, used to be HPR50, as Irokin said, I'd say its HPR40 now. It's not a permanent fix, it merely prolongs the inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Hey, Jason: If you have seen pics of my car you would know that it hasnt done 230,000KM ask teddy FFS. Irokin: I have got Castrol GTX in it, its been in there for around 3 months, my brother has that overrated KE20 and he has Penrite HPR30 and its fine, maybe i should try some of that. Also i got the car when it had 129.000KM so i don't know if the old owner rebuilt it. Super Jamie: When it comes to my cars engine i look after it, i don't put $6.99 kmart oil in it lol, when the 3K starts getting shit, i will get a 4K later on. Also, i was driving it the other day for around 20 minutes, when i came home the tappets sounded really noisy like a diesel lol, so i stopped the car and parked it. After around 3 hours i went back out and checked the oil and guess what it was BONE dry, so i topped it up with GTX i had some left over from the previous oil change. So how could that of happened? My old man thought it was a bottom end bearing by the rattling noise. It has now stopped and the engine running fine using no oil but still blowing some blue smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Try giving it the Bajic "round the block" trip - usually fixes most problems. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Jamie Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 cos castrol is a top oil to compare anything to, not :) if an oil changes viscosity with temperature (25w70 or whatever) it has synthetic components. if it's one viscosity (50w) it's mineral. straight weight oils are better for older worn engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Hey, Teddy: I have my l's so i drive it around. Jamie: Yeah i know so what oil would you reconmend. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwarf Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 GTX isn't what I'd be using. Penrite (what I used to use) and Pennzoil (what I now use) would be my personal picks. I think Jamies suggesting the Pennzoil 50w, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 sounds like it needs a new set of valve stem seals. the old ones are most likely hardened with age. when i had my old ke30 many years ago, i bought a jap import 4k for it. that engine went 230,000 hard kays before i changed it. regarding oils, pretty much any oil available these days is of a higher standard than what a 3k was designed to use when it came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Jamie Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 once we put gtx2 into a 4k that wasn't running right, it blew so much smoke we couldn't see the end of the street. we dropped it, put pennzoil in and there was barely a puff of blue coming out the exhaust pipe. oils ain't oils personally, i wouldn't do a burnout on gtx2, it's just so rubbish. i've heard gtx1 is nowhere near as bad and yes, i recommend pennzoil. the oil fields that it comes from are considered some of the purest in the world, and some of the best mechanics i know swear by it like i said above, pennzoil "older engine oil". it's a straight sae60 specially designed for engines that are half f@$ked and on the way out, like your valve stems are. pennzoil hd-50 would also be a good choice, it's a heavy duty sae50. hope this link works http://www.pennzoil.com.au/?method=product...226A2B9E6F59547 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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