Rola Drifter Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 Hey guys, just wondering but my steering is playing up and i have found out from my mechanic that its the knuckle kinda seizing up where the steering column from the firewall joins up to the steering rack. The car itself is a 1981 Ke70 sedan, but i do happen to have a spare ae71 sedan parts car sitting on the lawn that the steering is fine in so i was wondering if anyone knew if i could use the ae71 bottom half of the steering column to replace my ke70 one? Any help muchly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Tom Quote
Falken_KE30 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 Id assume so mate, The engine cross member is the same, so one would think the steering is same Good luck anyhow... Quote
Rola Drifter Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) Id assume so mate, The engine cross member is the same, so one would think the steering is same Good luck anyhow... Cheers mate, but unfortunately the engine cross members aren't the same because otherwise the ke70 and ae71 would both have a 4a in them. but cheers for your help though. Edited November 25, 2008 by Rola Drifter Quote
Rola Drifter Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) Ok i found out that the ae71 and ke70 steering columns aren't the same (therefore not interchangeable) as i found out after wasting a few hours of my time. At first i was only going to swap the engine bay side of the column over but have found out the ae71 parts are a complete 180 degrees around than the ke70 column (the ae71 unbolt from the top end and ke70 unbolt from both top and bottom end). So i decided to just go and swap the entire column over but the ae71 is about an inch to short. After all the swapping around, i had to go back to what i originally had in there and is still no good for me. So all the people out there wanting to know if it works or not, the answer is No. You've just got to find one thats already made for a 70 instead of trying a 71 one. Edited December 4, 2008 by Rola Drifter Quote
Rola Drifter Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 Here's the different shot of the 2 columns together. Ke70 on the right & Ae71 on the left. But anyway if someone happens to have a flat front ke70 that they are wrecking or what not could you please let me know if you have the part that might help me out. Here's the link to my wtb thread with a picture of what i'm chasing. http://www.rollaclub.com/board/?showtopic=25762 Cheers tom Quote
Falken_KE30 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Cheers mate, but unfortunately the engine cross members aren't the same because otherwise the ke70 and ae71 would both have a 4a in them. but cheers for your help though. f@$ken good one captain Obvious :yes: The ENGINE MOUNTS are different hence one is 4k, one 4a... you following? But to actually bolt the AE crossmember into a KE70 is bolt in... not sure about steering, think i read the mounts to hold the steering rack is different between the CM's... Quote
Rola Drifter Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 f@$ken good one captain Obvious :yes: The ENGINE MOUNTS are different hence one is 4k, one 4a... you following? But to actually bolt the AE crossmember into a KE70 is bolt in... not sure about steering, think i read the mounts to hold the steering rack is different between the CM's... Look mate i wasn't being a smart ass or anything like that about your reply, but seen as you obviously couldn't read the topic title or what i had put in the first post about steering columns, you "CLEARLY" weren't following as your "ASSUMING" that the steering columns were the same. Have you personally tried to put an ae71 steering column into a ke70 to bolt upto the steering rack??? Also there's a bit of a difference between saying that the "engine cross member's are the same" and "the ae cross member bolts into the ke70" don't you think? Quote
irokin Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Also there's a bit of a difference between saying that the "engine cross member's are the same" and "the ae cross member bolts into the ke70" don't you think? True that. I guess it shouldn't be all that surprising that it doesn't fit. From the poking around I've done it would seem Toyota has used several different front floor pans in the E70's. Good to know anyway. Quote
Falken_KE30 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Yeah so i worded it wrong, big deal... I was just taking a stab in the dark at one would think the steering components are the same seeing the cross members are interchangeable.. Quote
Rola Drifter Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) I was just taking a stab in the dark at one would think the steering components are the same seeing the cross members are interchangeable.. Of course mate, i thought the same thing as that's why i put the post up to begin with so i could get confirmation from people who have actually tried or were beside a mate at the time they were actually doing it on whether or not it would work. If i was up for having a "stab in the dark" i would have just gone ahead and tried it without checking to see if anyone knew if i was wasting my time or not. Edited December 4, 2008 by Rola Drifter Quote
Fat Bastard Customs Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 well the next question is, which one is better? AE71 or KE70? i have the KE70 gear in the car and a AE71 column in the shed. Quote
Falken_KE30 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) If i was up for having a "stab in the dark" i would have just gone ahead and tried it without checking to see if any knew if i was wasting my time or not. And is everyone was like you when it came to these things, no one would have any answers, cause no one would have wasted their time!! :yes: Edited December 4, 2008 by Falken_KE30 Quote
Rola Drifter Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 And if everyone was like you when it came to these things, no one would have any answers, cause no one would have wasted their time!! :yes: Yeah true, but seen as nobody knew i didn't really waste my time in the end did i? I now have been able to share this little bit of knowledge that other people didn't know! So next time i'm having a look through the forums, If someone comes up with a question that i may have come across before (& done) i might: A: Read the topic title and the first post to get an idea of what it's about! B: Think to myself (if you could do that) can i actually help this person out (cause i've done it before)! & C: Stay on the topic of what the post was about! Quote
Rola Drifter Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 well the next question is, which one is better? AE71 or KE70? i have the KE70 gear in the car and a AE71 column in the shed. Well fat bastard customs all i can tell you is that if your going to just swap the columns over then it wont reach completely to the steering rack just like i've pictured up top, but it could be possible that if you put the ae71 column and steering rack in then it could work. (i'm not sure at all as i didn't even try to put the ae71 steering rack in) but if someone has some spares lying around then they might be able to help out if they have some spare time. cheers Quote
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