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Have looked everywhere but can't find much about the 3t motors.Just want to know what they go like and how to get them going hard also just want to know would a stock 4age go better then a worked 3t

your reply would be really appriecaited

 

cheers :P

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man 3tc's go hard with a weber and extractors and if you feel the need maybe a cam thrown in for good measure

 

thanks mate what you recon the 3t would go like in a ke70 drift car

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Like a 1970's derived pushrod motor with all it's reliability or lack thereof. They'll put up with a certain amount of punishment, but they like TLC.

 

You'll have more grunt with a worked 3T, but you're better off in the long run with a 4AG.

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thanks mate what you recon the 3t would go like in a ke70 drift car

 

 

i can't see it going to bad man but they have a typical bad period man like every t series engine i have owned it has been fine for a bout a year then 6 months of dramas then fine for another year

 

i used to have a 3tc in my celica while i was re building my 2tg and the 3tc blew me away it was nearly as quick as the 2tg but didnt like asmuch revs as the 2tg did, i mean i cained it everytime i got into it so they can handle punishment aslong as you service it reguraly and keep an eye on things the 3tc is not really a problem motor lol

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they're a typical pushrod motor. pretty bullet proof. good low/mid range pull. plenty of aftermarket support. needs a good cam and flow mods to wake it up. lightened flywheel helps with the sluggish feel. much cheaper than a 4age conversion! most of them will piss oil everywhere. best to freshen one up if you want it to last if regularly abused.. rings, bigends and gaskets etc

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i havent experienced a stock 3tc or a stock 4age. but my KE20 with 3t that has cams and extractors isnt even in the same league as my KE25 with 4AGE with cams and extractors.... the 4a would eat the 3t for breakfast in NA form....

 

given the choice though id much rather drive the 3t powered KE20 daily, its a torquey little engine that will pull up any hill without complaining and if something goes wrong its such a simple engine to work on, or replace. i can easily drive around in peak hour traffic and only use 3rd gear, it will take off in 3rd and pull up to about 80 before i change to 4th so its like driving an auto sometimes. the 4a on the other hand is a bitch in traffic, but once the traffic opens up she will pull to 130 in 2nd and sound like a champ while doing it... like i said, not even in the same league.

 

if you want a 3t with decent power you need to turbo it. there are guys getting 500hp+ out of boosted 3t' but i doubt you'll find a worked NA 3t with half that much power.

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they're a typical pushrod motor. pretty bullet proof. good low/mid range pull. plenty of aftermarket support. needs a good cam and flow mods to wake it up. lightened flywheel helps with the sluggish feel. much cheaper than a 4age conversion! most of them will piss oil everywhere. best to freshen one up if you want it to last if regularly abused.. rings, bigends and gaskets etc

 

they tend to piss out oil but that is common for a t series engine if ya thrash it everywhere, if your gonna go a lightened flywheel use the 2tg flywheel they are lighter than a 3t flywheel and easyish to find!!!

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if you want a 3t with decent power you need to turbo it. there are guys getting 500hp+ out of boosted 3t' but i doubt you'll find a worked NA 3t with half that much power.

Only in Puerto Rico at the drags lol. But that's true... 500hp+ for a 1.8 is pretty freakin insane. I wouldn't recommend it for a daily, though.

 

I'd go the 3t becuase of the reliability and the oldschool feel (for KE20). 4age's are good, though.

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Only in Puerto Rico at the drags lol. But that's true... 500hp+ for a 1.8 is pretty freakin insane. I wouldn't recommend it for a daily, though.

 

Agreed, I think people should stop using the PR cars as an inspiration, they basically run those engines till they blow (which is fairly quickly) and then just drop a fresh one in and transfer the good stuff over. Basically any car can make massive power if you treat it with a complete and utter disregard for longevity and boost the crap out of it.

 

The impressive thing is getting that same kind of power AND reliability, without having to do a Top Fuel-style rebuild between every couple of runs.

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