Teddys Magic Aircon Airflow :)

[Teddy]

Hey all

 

Ive got a Question.

 

With Aircon,- As u all know i have a ke70 (well, 2...) - and its got the 1.3 L.

This is too little and aircon would liturally kill it.

 

So, i thought - well, how about hooking up a powerfull 12 V Motor desenated to turn the aircon motor (assuming the wires are all done propery via what eva is needed) - Would this work?

 

Also, what else is needed for airon? isnt there a seperate radiator or someing? - WHo here knows somting about aircon! - oh and u need all the pipes and that hehehe

 

P.s - the 1.3 has a good lots space to the left of the block lol

 

Thanks all

Have a good x-mas - whats left of it!

 

Cheers, Teddy

[irokin]

Yes It would work...but you would need a fairly powerful electric motor and a fairly hefty altenator to power it. Unless your planning on charging a boot full of batterys and running it in bursts so the altenator doesnt have to provide all the power all the time. It could charge the batterys slowly and then the compressor setup drains them. I imagine this would be rather expensive....

 

Cut your losses and just put the aircon straight on the fan belt. By converting it to electrical you'll be loosing power. To transfer the power you have to convert it to electrical, regulate it, convert it back to kinetic and then power it. The other way you have kinetic then to power it...less power loss.

 

probably something others can add to on this

 

Cheers,

Ben

[Teddy]

hmmm... well maybee i could do a landcruzer - have a second battery and second circuite. - then again this would clutter up my engien bay a bit lol - have alternators and radiators pokein out the hood

 

hehehehe

 

thanks for that ben - ill see what else i can come up with - I'm goan make sure i find a way around the problem without getting a new motor and compromizing too much power... well - its a future plan anway :ninja:

[Teddy]

oh and i for got on my last post - not to mention the cost...

[Teddy]

lol cool thanks for that - We should have more Nick Tips - they are wize !

 

Thanks every 1 for helping me ! - oh i rang the junkersm and a 4-ac would put me back about 500 - how much would it cost to get it cchanged ova - i can't do it my self... no equitement.. :ninja:

[Teddy]

Better car... i wouldnt give my ke70 away for the earth! heheh - i know what ya mean, too bad $ don't grow on treese like in that cartoon i use to watch with the little bush animals - they used gum nuts as currency

lol

 

Teddy

[Xany]

Gday fellas i'm back and sticking with it...... :ninja: ......merry christmas everyone and have a happy new year.......i'll prolly see most of you at the bbq on saturday....

[Teddy]

Me 2!

 

Oh No, ive got ano ther aircon Idea! (hehehe, try anwser it as best u can !)

 

Now, i was thinking if i purchases an airconditionar (smallish 1) which would fit into my boot, id position it so that i could cutt air vents betwen the speakers on the rear shelf... the air comes fromt the aircon and out of the vents. - Walla! - lol not really,

 

Heres the question.

Can u get convertors from 24 V to 12 V - and how long would a supa heavy duty truck battery last ? (assuming i had a 24 -> 12 V convertor and wires etc... )

 

?

 

Any anwsers - lol, now this is just me thinking and seeing what u guys think !

 

Cys 2 morrow !!!!

[Teddy]

lol you tell me!

 

hehehe nar, but i was just htinking about it - its another insane idea i guess lol - but lets say i attempted it, Could u get convertors from 24 V to 12 V - and how long would a supa heavy duty truck battery last ?

 

Mwhahahah - Trust me, ill; have anoter idea soon :ninja:

[Ruts]

Teddy just go all out and get a 12v to 240v step up - then you can get Mark Taylor to come round and put a Fujitsu Split System in the boot - ducted air right through!!!!!!!

[Teddy]

Oh oh yeah - and i could have the hole internet fride to replace the glove box wile I'm there

 

:ninja:

[Teddy]

Hello All!

 

Well, i have another idea :ninja:

 

This time, you have 2 grills which are positioned above the drivers side and passender side. They suck in the air and the air is piped down to the glove box. The glove box isnt a glove box any more - its a fixed panel with a motorbike radiator inside. Behind this are 2 very fast small fans. Basically as you drive along, the air come in thorugh thr grils, down the proper air pipes, into the glove box, cooled (well, its gona be some what an evaporator) and back out through the normal pipes.

 

To controle the speed - its the fan speed wired up to the fan speed. Mind you now, that all the blower and that hasto be taken out for the room. THis would have to be done with vents that open and shut to controle the airflow, and the pipes, and around the glove box area would have all the special hear resistance material, so that as little heat can penetrairt and stop my advanced evaporator working. - So whats so advanced about it?

 

Well, 1. There is 2 radiators - behind 1 another.

2. The air grills are positioed so that maximum air is chaneled

Down - pipes run in roof (Flat, wide pipes) and externally down

the passer side beam (makking sure that it fixs in, and doesnt

stick out too far - again, flat pipes

3. All the controles are re-wired up to the new fans, and the crappy

old blower is no where to be seen.

4. 2 Fast pumps would be used - a seperate water contanier in the

engine bay with 4 pipes coming out of it, though the fire wall &

into the radiators (split pipe, 1 container with 2 sections)

- 2 into the container, 2 out -

5. - nearly finished here fokes

6. - pumps positioned on firewall, all pipes have heat reduced stuff

around them, and the shortest possible rout to the accessorie

would be used.

 

Hehhehehhehehehehe

I'm done!

 

Lets see what talk this cauzes lol

 

Teddy!

 

P.s - Good work reading it all!

[Teddy]

il fix that

 

:ninja:

 

Add a seperate pipe to the outside of the car which has a switch attached to it - in slow conditions you switch is so that just air somes though and the fans behind the radiators do all the work (turn up extra high) and in faster driving conditions - switch it other way - so its attached to the vents.

 

i will win this battel

 

:) :) :) 8D =)

[Teddy]

gimi 5 to see what i can devolope :ninja:

[Teddy]

Heheheh

 

"pulls out the bag of ideas"

 

The air pipes are a heat ristance

the water pipes are copper. (well, this is good to what ive herd?)

The catch to cold air is this: (my theory)

 

If air is hot, then its hot.

Fans move air - some re-leaf

Fan Speed 3 - Faster moving, - oh? getting cooler...

 

So, How about we add some some small turbine fans along the pillar of the drivers side. The faster the air, the cooler it will fell, although it might not bee that cool - like when u drive down the highway with windows on a hot day - might still be hot, but adleast theres a breese.

 

Getting the air cool - Section 2.

 

i have an idea for this bit.

 

We get a small compressor and we pop her up as far unda the dash on the drivers side. Basically if u get a can of deodrant and spray it, well, usually its cold - alotho the temp outside isnt excatly that. So, the compressor is used to compress the air (suxed in from vents) and the air is let out it spontanous bursts (refur to above example with can) of air - and it would be slighjly colder than normal.

 

I spoze its somwhat similar to how aircons work, but then again its slightly different in some aspects...

 

Another idea i thought was to get 2 old bar fridges, get the cooleing stuff off em and use them in the car -combind and customize them for the size / space. - the radiator might have to be put in the engine bay to catch a breeze if catching the air from the outside top vents was too little / not enough

 

Get my drift? :ninja:

 

Hehehe

teddy