24mm Sway Bar On A Ke70

[rb20 rolla]

hi guys are sway bars worth the price and do they help. i have just lowered the old girl 2 inchs in the front and 1 1/2 inchs in the rear and the thing is so much better to drive it corners like the rb20 is not there but i still feel there is more in it. a friend said to try a sway bar but i have never driven a car that has had a sway bar upgrade or done an upgrade on a car my self so i have no idea if it will help with the weight when i corner. any help would be nice thanks..

Edited May 30, 2010 by rb20 rolla

[fusion]

Defiantly felt an improvement when I installed one on my AE71, especialy when going through corners.

 

Little minor niggle with my one, I had to enlarge the hole on the castor bracket a little, for the swaybar to fit through. However this may not apply to all 24mm Swaybars

 

Cheers Fusion

[rb20 rolla]

thats what i want to hear thanks heaps mate..

[fusion]

Just for audience sake, what suspension setup you running with the RB engine?

 

Different struts? New bushings? Better shocks?

 

Sometimes its better to upgrade / replace other parts before installing a big swaybar upfront

[rb20 rolla]

bc racing coilovers all round 30 way damper control 8kg springs in the front 6kgs in the rear.

[altezzaclub]

Just get a $20 Celica rear one from the wrecker and bolt it straight in.

 

If you like the change then go buy aftermarket ones.

 

One of the best (and cheapest) mods you can do- I do it to all the cars I own.

 

Overall, a stiffer rear sway takes out understeer, and a stiffer front sway puts in more understeer.

Edited May 29, 2010 by altezzaclub

[rb20 rolla]

Just get a $20 Celica rear one from the wrecker and bolt it straight in.

 

If you like the change then go buy aftermarket ones.

 

One of the best (and cheapest) mods you can do- I do it to all the cars I own.

 

Overall, a stiffer rear sway takes out understeer, and a stiffer front sway puts in more understeer.

thanks mate for the info i will look into it.

[rian]

"Overall, a stiffer rear sway takes out understeer, and a stiffer front sway puts in more understeer."

 

So basically the front one is good enough just for fun and skids but a rear sway bar upgrade is the way to go?

[Grand Master of Awesome]

any specific celica model?

[altezzaclub]

The third generation RA60s or any of them with a live rear axle on trailing arms like a KE70.

 

There were two side-by-side at the wreckers when I was down there last year, one with KE70 suspension and one with independant rear.

 

Just take a look under any you can find. I think I cleaned the wrecker out of Celica sways and Corona front LCAs and mailed them to club members.. :blinks:

[altezzaclub]

Well Rian, I prefer oversteer in a car, which is why I don't drive FWDs. So I like the nose to have a lot of grip and the tail to have less.

 

However manufacturers think that is too dangerous for the average driver so they make cars with built-in understeer, the idea being that you will run wide if you go too fast, lift off and slow down, and the nose will hopefully come around the corner. On my cars the tail will step out and you will exit sideways or backwards..

 

So to me the front sway bars are already too big on most cars and I usually mod them in odd ways to make them less effective. You need to keep some sort of balance between springs/shocks & sways at each end, but tuning them to suit yourself is part of making a car satisfying and individual.

 

I've never put a thicker front sway on a car.

[rian]

I never really thought about it that much, I just figured if they make huge aftermarket ones then they must be for the win otherwise they wouldn't make them. Thanks for the heads up. And yeah i totally agree, FWD sucks butt.

[archangel62]

I've never tried on a Rolla, but most Geminis come out with 24mm front swaybars. With decent bushes it makes a massive difference over non-swaybar models (pre-Lotus/RTS). Depends on the casting material and non-horizontal length of the bar as to how tough it'll be though!