My Ke30 Working Almost Just A Few Questions

[Chief]

Hey guys i seem to have more threads than most so i thought i would do a thread that I'm going to shit you all with questions until you personally come around my house and kill me hahaha

 

I was talking to my mate and he said i couldn't use premium in my car? it a standard 5k engine with a ported and shaved head. Is this true and would I and would I also have to use valve saver fluid or a lead additive?

 

In a ke30 does the exhaust have to go over the rear diff and is there any way to get my diff centred again it looks to be to the right a little bit ?

 

 

Ahh and also what’s an igniter? I have a GT coil what else does it need to work besides the positive and ground on the rear of it?

 

Sorry guys i will be updating this thread probably almost daily because i'm working hard to get it working so i will have a car again and I'm trying to get the ke30 working yay

 

Cheers guys

[Felix]

You can use premium. No you don't need to use additives in your fuel.

[ke70dave]

Ahh and also what’s an igniter? I have a GT coil what else does it need to work besides the positive and ground on the rear of it?

 

an ignitor is a bunch of transistors which convert the "spark" signal from an ECU (small signal) to a signal that is sent to the coil which makes the spark plugs fire. its so you don't put any load on your ECU, ignitors actually get fairly hot from the transistors turning off and on, so you don't want this load on your ecu.

 

as i said it connects to ECU, so its only in EFI engines. (incorrect as explained below)

 

as for the coil, not sure, if it looks like the one you have bolt it in and see if it works!

 

coil only has wires, +12V, and the other side is a trigger wire from your dizzy (also goes to your tacho). the coil will need to be grounded though.

Edited June 30, 2010 by ke70dave

[coln72]

I'm guessing by the "ignitor" question, you have an electronid dizzy on your 5k or have access to one.

 

Whether or not you need one depends on the electronic dizzy as some, the 5k ones I think, had an inbuilt ignitor and the 4k ones needed an external ignitor. If you have a 5k dizzy, you can hook up the two wires directly to your coil. Shit, something in the back of my mind is telling me that the coil needs to have a built in resistace, something like a GT40R, to work properly. Others may be able to clarify this :wink:

 

As for the exhaust, Id say for a street car it would have to go over the diff or you would end up with ground clearance issues even though we went under the diff on my KE20 racer.

 

And yes premium can be used, but unless you are way up on compression I wouldnt bother. Again, my KE20 was now faster when using standard or premium unleaded. This was backed up via a stopwatch on the same surface on the same day.

[Taz_Rx]

an ignitor is a bunch of transistors which convert the "spark" signal from an ECU (small signal) to a signal that is sent to the coil which makes the spark plugs fire. its so you don't put any load on your ECU, ignitors actually get fairly hot from the transistors turning off and on, so you don't want this load on your ecu.

 

as i said it connects to ECU, so its only in EFI engines.

 

Incorrect. As colin said below you electronic dizzies also use ignitors.

 

An ignitor is basically just a relay. It grounds the coil when told to do so (by a pulse from the ECU or elec dizzy).

You have to use an ignitor between the ECU and coil in an EFI car because if the discharge voltage of the coil went through the ECU it would blow the shit out of it.

 

I'm guessing by the "ignitor" question, you have an electronid dizzy on your 5k or have access to one.

 

Whether or not you need one depends on the electronic dizzy as some, the 5k ones I think, had an inbuilt ignitor and the 4k ones needed an external ignitor. If you have a 5k dizzy, you can hook up the two wires directly to your coil. Shit, something in the back of my mind is telling me that the coil needs to have a built in resistace, something like a GT40R, to work properly. Others may be able to clarify this :wink:

 

Yeah check if your elec dizzy has an internal ignitor or not, that will determine if you need an external one or not.

 

As for the resistor, regardless of weather your running points or electronic if you are using a ballast resistor you must also use a resistor type coil or vice versa. Thats what the "R" in GT40R stands for - Must be used with a resistor.

[Chief]

sorry guys i didnt know what an eletric dizzy was so i had to go and google it but my Coil is a GT40T bosch super sports coil 12 volt and the head is pretty shaved

The head

I don't know if you guys can tell anything from the photo but i figured i would try to explain

 

Cheers

Edited June 29, 2010 by Chief

[Chief]

Hey guys I'm just putting the clutch cable in how does it get its tension because its all loose?

 

Cheers

[jono1986]

Does your dizzy have 1 or more wire coming out of it? All a coil needs is an ignition feed and a earth signal either from your dizzy or from an ignitor. And contrary to what people are saying, some dizzy's do come with external ignitor's. And my clutch cable was loose when i put it in at first, at the bulkhead in the engine back you have to undo that rubber thing and pull the cable throughto tension it up. Unless your talking about the spring on the either the pedal or down at the gearbox, do you remember fitting 2 springs to the system?

Edited June 30, 2010 by jono1986

[Chief]

Does your dizzy have 1 or more wire coming out of it? All a coil needs is an ignition feed and a earth signal either from your dizzy or from an ignitor. And contrary to what people are saying, some dizzy's do come with external ignitor's. And my clutch cable was loose when i put it in at first, at the bulkhead in the engine back you have to undo that rubber thing and pull the cable throughto tension it up. Unless your talking about the spring on the either the pedal or down at the gearbox, do you remember fitting 2 springs to the system?

 

The dizzy has a vacuum looking tube coming from it? and yeah i don't remember the spring at the pedalbox but there is one at the gearbox.

i feel like there is somthing I'm missing to hold the cable sheathe near the gearbox.

but the cable is no cable tension and its not pulling the clutch arm

 

Cheers

[jono1986]

Other than a Vac line, there should be electrical wires coming from it, there should be a little contraption to hold the sheath down at the gearbox. I'll take some photo's of what i mean, cause i aint that great at explaining things.

[jono1986]

Alright i took some photo's;

 

This first one is of the rubber at the bulkhead, for adjustment (i think):

This one shows where the cable passes through the Block/Bellhousing, which holds the sheath in place:

This one is the same as above, but it also shows where it has been connect onto the clutch fork:

And this one is of where the wire comes out of the dizzy:

 

I can get a photo of the pedal spring if you want as well.

Edited June 30, 2010 by jono1986

[Taz_Rx]

There's supposed to be an "E-clip" that slots into the slots on this bit...

 

 

Mind you most have broken over the years and end up with hose clamps on them as does Jono's.

 

Pull the cable sheeth tight and do up the hose clamp up against the rubber block.

[Chief]

Alright i took some photo's;

 

This first one is of the rubber at the bulkhead, for adjustment (i think):

This one shows where the cable passes through the Block/Bellhousing, which holds the sheath in place:

This one is the same as above, but it also shows where it has been connect onto the clutch fork:

And this one is of where the wire comes out of the dizzy:

 

I can get a photo of the pedal spring if you want as well.

 

Nah man no need for the photo of the pedalbox but yeahh that explains heaps to me i didnt even have it going through the gearbox hole thing or the rubber bit at the top i knew i was missing bits but thanks man for going to soo much effort to help me out but with the dizzy there's a vacuum little doodad and a vacuum hose coming off it and a thread coming out the side of the dizzy closest to the tappet cover what is that for? sorry i would take some photo's but my mum borrowed my camera last and i havnt seen it since.

 

thanks man for the help

[jono1986]

By thread do you mean plastic wire? In the photo it shows a plastic gromet on the dizzy where the wire comes out, does your phone have a camera?

[Chief]

nah i mean like a metal bolt thread like you would hook a wire upto

i thought it might be an earth

Edited June 30, 2010 by Chief