This is slightly OT, but anyway:

 

Can anyone comment on the strength and quality of a 20year old 'Jap' rim compared to that of a new 'inferior' wheel? Not trying to start a shitfight, but more so out of my interest as I hear ALOT of people always say that the 'Jap' rim is stronger and such. Just wondering how a 20 year old rim after all the stresses of driving over that time would compare to a new Rota or the likes.

 

this is a rota wheel... and they're brand new... never seen or heard of a 20 year old rim doing that

 

just google rota wheels. everything that comes up is about how there junk and crack/break

 

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SIMMONS-V4-SUITS-MA...=item1c14b9a395

 

Might be the wrong PCD

 

Try these guys too http://www.japanautos.com.au/

Edited August 11, 201016 yr by blzbub666

i was wondering how long it was going to take before that photo of the rota wheel was going to be shown...

 

that photo is what some people refer to as an internet phenominon, it manages to make its way into almost every wheel thread on the internet!!

 

heres one for ya, this is an SSR wheel

 

 

not as catastrophic as that rotor, but it is cracked.

 

ANY wheel subject to enough forces will crack/break. its an alluminium alloy and alloy is a stiff material, and is subject to cracking.

 

my mate had a set of SSR wheels on his 32 GTR, and he found a fairly large crack in them, just like the crack above, got it repaired fine, but yeah it was cracked.

 

here is a BBS wheel, notice the crack right through one of the spokes.

 

 

there are many claims made by people about cheap wheels not using R&D or proper testing, lets see some proof hey?

 

now i know some of you are going to say, well the BBS wheel and SSR wheel didnt fail catastrophically like the rota wheel. which is definately correct, and it is what you want. but the BBS and SSR both did fail, so just because its a jap brand doesnt mean it wont fail. btw when i say "fail" its refering to the wheel cracking.

 

having said that, ill still buy jap wheels, as 2nd hand they are alot cheaper than these dodgy knock offs. and the dodgy knock offs look....terrible.

Edited August 11, 201016 yr by ke70dave

As usual the difference is mainly experience of manufacturing and metallurgy. Ive noticed a lot of the cheaper wheels that imitate japnese style wheels are just inferior grades of alloy. From experience Ive seen a fair few buckled or dinged rims, and the jap multi piece rims that these styles copy will, just like David has said, still be damaged in an accident but remain on the car at least, where a cheaper product might have just failed completely. Ive seen some pretty massive bucles on the inner or the outer of a wheel and with some machining, rolling and welding the wheel is at least serviceable for the most part, and indeed not a total write off (which breaks the set of course). So Id have Japanese wheels for this reason. Id always look for wheels with the Japanese industrial hallmark on them.

might be getting some 14x8 ssr MK3's for the rear and 14x7 ssr xr4 longchamps for the front tomorrow.

If ROTA wheels are so gay and so weak, why do you see everbody using drift teks then?????, they are the same I.E manufactured by the same people, sold by the same people, as an ae tek are they not (just a different design!!!)

put the longchamps on the front and the mk3's on the rear and they scrub on the inside of the guard , so does anyone know any cheap/good places I can get my guards rolled slightly or would I be best off doing the thing with the baseball bat as I think I only need a slight roll.

Edited August 14, 201016 yr by 19914afc

Baseball bat. Its not really that hard to do if you take your time.

do you need to cover it or just leave it bare? and do you know if it cracks the paint?

Read this thread.

 

You may as well do it properly.

 

http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?showtopic=29887

pics of the xr4 longchamps on the front and pics of the mk3's that will be going on the rear when I get some wheel nuts that will fit properly.

If ROTA wheels are so gay and so weak, why do you see everbody using drift teks then?????, they are the same I.E manufactured by the same people, sold by the same people, as an ae tek are they not (just a different design!!!)

 

 

As usual the answer is they are cheap. Why else would people use crap stuff?

 

Nobody here thinks drift teks are any good either. like you said, they are all junk.

anyone here know anyone who does guard rolling (tryed mungi mods but couldn't get a hold of him)

this could be and example of what to do lol

if you wish to follow these guys

 

youtube is your best friend in finding ways to do stuff hahah

 

just if you do it this way better make sure you have some left over bog lol

Edited August 17, 201016 yr by Undertaker_is_the_best

ye, Ive seen both these videos, but was looking at getting it done properly with the proper tool that some body shops have (can't find any local) Otherwise I might see if I can find a picture of a ke70 with bolt on flares.