wasfishing Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 BWHAHAHAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Toyota have publically stated that the TRD Aurion is NOT meant to compete with the XR6 and SS. Instead, it's designed more for the Liberty GT kind of market, more of a sports cruiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwarf Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 (edited) Toyota have publically stated that the TRD Aurion is NOT meant to compete with the XR6 and SS. Instead, it's designed more for the Liberty GT kind of market, more of a sports cruiser. For them to realistically compete in that market, they'd want to have the full complement of driving wheels. No-one would choose a FWD Aurion over a Liberty GT, unless they have unreasonable brand loyalty, or don't know a thing about cars. That's what Mazda did when they released the MPS6, made it go and gave it AWD. If they really do intend for it to compete, it would have to be AWD. Edited June 22, 2007 by Redwarf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancullen Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 (edited) /\ /\ /\ EXACTLY!!! Toyota are trying to pussy out with a statement saying it's not to compete with the XR6 Turbo (which everyone is sizing it up against). It's amazing - Toyota sells more cars than any other single manufacturer in the world, and you would think that would require good marketing. But whenever it comes to any vehicle intended as a sporty type, they get it REALLY wrong. Want examples??? ZZE31 MR2 (only used 1ZZ-FE instead of 2ZZ-GE, not available with proper manual trans outside Japan) All Celicas from 2nd generation onwards - possible exception of the GT4 Previous model Camry Sportivo (sure it handled great, but only 4kW extra!?!?!) Edited June 22, 2007 by ancullen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7shades Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Thats it... I'm writing a letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancullen Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 BWAHAHA!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD_rollaman Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I was talking to a bloke at the Toyota dealer near me today. He tells me that the AWD Aurion is coming, within the next 18 months. Not sure how valid he would be as a source, although there is probably some basis to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwarf Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 History has not been kind to this type of car. The Ralliart Magna came with much fanfare, and left without much love...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 History has not been kind to this type of car. The Ralliart Magna came with much fanfare, and left without much love...... I haven't driven a ralliart magna but i have driven a Magna se or some shit and mums 3.0 Camry is quicker, handles better and doesn't fall to bits, Mums Camry will smoke them up through 1st and half of 2nd and the magna wont even do a full 1st gear skid and it has a bigger engine, 3.5 Vs 3.0, 3.0 shits all over the magna. Des :jamie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwarf Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 The Ralliart Magna was AWD, had poke, and, by all accounts, not a bad thing. The thing was, it had a triple diamond on it and the boot said Magna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitephyre Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Exactly, if Mr Bishi can have a crack it at least here in .au, Mr Toyoda can have a crack and more likely make it work. The problem is that most of us who bitch and moan don't have the money to back up our mouths and buy, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood§tok Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 My next car will be an Audi or a Soob. Unless toyota brings out an AWD they wont even make my short list and thats a real shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7shades Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 If they made the "new" sprinter, there would be at least five in our fleet, right now. Had a chat to out marketing rep who currently drives an IS250 (previous to that a GT Forester) and he tells me he'd glady swap for a AWD SC Aurion... My old man currently has an SR5 Hilux TD and after I mentioned the TRD version hee started rifling through the filing cabinet to find out when the lease period is up :jamie: Our company is a prime example of Toyota's failings at the moment. We have a fleet of about 40 vehicles, everything from huuuge coaches, coasters, hiaces, hilux 2wd and 4wd, several yarises (or is that yarii) and the odd troopy for good measure. While most of them are purely work hacks, and serve their purpose very well, when it comes to getting cars on a novated lease for the more senior or important staff (who can afford it), Toyota sometimes just doesn't offer anything special enough. As much as we'd like to have an all-Toyota fleet (we get amazing deals from our local dealer) our guys are looking elsewhere. So now we have BMW X5's, a 325, 3 Focii, couple of subies, and a HSV ffs... and ALL of them have spent time in service for warranty claims. ALL. Not so the Toyotas... AND.... to make things worse, the other day I see a f@$king TRANSIT out the back ready to put into service... why? Toyota can't build hiaces fast enough! My Old man even had to wait 2 months for his Hilux, and he only got THAT because the waiting list for a a Lexus LX470 is so long, the new one will be released by the time he gets it! Arrrrgh get your SHIT together toyota.... your faithful subjects grow tired of your follies and are turning to the dark side.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancullen Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 The Ralliart Magna was AWD, had poke, and, by all accounts, not a bad thing. The thing was, it had a triple diamond on it and the boot said Magna. Sorry Rob, but that's not quite true. The Ralliart Magna was FWD only, and had a 180kW version of the 3.5L V6. The AWD Magna couldn't have the 180kW version as there apparently wasn't room for the extractors or something. Which is odd as the drivetrain came from the Japanese market Diamante and was VERY similar to that in the 3000GT, which had enough room for a DOHC version of the 3.0L V6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwarf Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 I stand (sit, lie down) corrected. I always thought the AWD was the Rallitart model. I'll put that in the live and learn file. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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