remove plugs and turn by hand. any resistance? compare with your other engine.

 

What fly wheel are you using?

Edited January 25, 200818 yr by tojo2

i've had something similar happen.

 

ke20, 5k, elec dizzy, running the original alt from the ke20. started it about 5 times during the day, was x-mas shopping. on the way home, pulled over for some car parts, went to start it, slow turn over, like a flat battery, then smoke from the wires going to the alternator...the plastic around them was smoking. let it sit for a bit, tried again and it did the same thing. i started calling around for a ride home, then it starts to rain about 30mins after i tried to start it the last time. cursing my head off, i give it one try for shits and giggles, and it starts perfectly...

 

so in short, i have NFI, but possibly check your alternator... disconnect it and start the car.

Hi,

Tojo I am using the stock KE15 flywheel and a NEW KE15 clutch adn clutch plate. A early gear box has different splines so I put this old style fly wheel on. When Installing it was all torqued properly and new spigot bearing installed and all aligned and it slid onto the gear box easy. So yes issues could happen here but clutch dis engages good is strong and doesn't seem to be causing issues.

 

Also Alternator funny you say that I did turn motor by hand with plus in hard as hell and slow but to do this I disconnected the fan belt. So might give this a shot disconnecting the alt. Is original 1969 alt and could be dead but I mean looks new..LOL

 

I will build all new earth wires for it tomorrow and by pass the ignition circuit straight to the starter and see what happens. Fingers crossed it is just an earth.

 

Cheers

Cameron

only a thought. but if your using a ke15 flywheel, are using a ke15 starter. if the number of teeth on the starter are different from ke15 to ke20-30-70 that can cause the starter to bind up. i haven't seen it before in corolla starters but i have seen it in other cars.

 

worth a try.

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Edited May 24, 200818 yr by Sbox

Not saying it is, but could be wrong thickness of sandwich plate between eng. and gearbox.

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Edited May 24, 200818 yr by Sbox

I saw one the other day that was at least 4-5 thick, I don't think it would affect cranking though. Just less of the input shaft in the spigot bearing and the starter wouldn't mesh in as far onto the fly wheel.

How are you going with this Cameron?

 

I belive it would affect cranking if plate is to thin :pressureplate comes in contact with bellhousing, wrong pos. of starter and inputshaft.

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Edited May 24, 200818 yr by Sbox

Even if its only 2mm difference, it changes the position of the gear box. Have seen people have had issues with contact between bellhousing and pressureplate due to this.

 

 

Thickness of sandwich plate does not influence how far starter gearwheel meshes into flywheel gear ring as starter and flywheel remain in same pos. to one another.

I know I suck at explaining stuff so anyone else than myself understand what I mean :hmm: , but I try to be clear

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Edited May 24, 200818 yr by Sbox

Did Cameron mention that its all sorted now?

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Edited May 24, 200818 yr by Sbox

No he didn't, I wish he would and wrap this up with an answer.

 

His earth had a dirty connection.

Edited January 29, 200818 yr by Trev

Hi,

Well as Trev spoiled the surprise on me yes it runs. I have been trying to get video of it youtube for you all to see then tell you.

 

Well I got the video up:

 

 

Quality is crap youtube didn't like my HD camera. But the neighbors you hear them chear after I turn it off. Later he asked what V8 is in that..LOL I said a stock 1.5L 4 banger..lol he looked shocked as he is a big V8 man and I think I scared him..lol

 

Well I decided after trying to use a jumper lead for an earth just in case it was not quite also making a good contact I tried a big 4 gauge earth block to battery direct and sanded paint off block used that grease to improve electrical connection you name it. Now with the 470cca (that is how big the battery is) it swings the sprinters 5K like it has no spark plugs in it then BOOM into life it swings.

 

In the short clip it cranked for a bit before it went due to I forgot to use the choke..LOL I have a short walk around at the start of the clip. The engine bay was a mess it is much cleaner now. I will update my ride thread with all this info soon.

 

Also from the above posts I run the original KE15 backing plate on the motor. The original 5K one was different.

 

Also I have run thick and thin backing plates on my KE30 with no problems. So there probably isn't to much of an issue there.

 

So thanks for all the help fellas in this issue. Was great.

 

Cheers

Cameron