Gspec Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) I came accross this vid on youtube recently. Any person that excepts this as a suitable means to repair a car needs to be shot did and have their given to someone that will will treat it right. :y: Edited January 4, 2009 by Gspec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason KE30 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 haha thats funny as some people and their 'how to' guides aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gspec Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 some people and their 'how to' guides aye Sadly thats not some random dude off the street, thats a video made by Haynes, an automative book publisher. :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 for that size repair and for people that don't have access to welders to patch the rust and don't wanna have to take their car to a bodyshop, i don't see a problem with it. Sure if it was a bigger rust patch then get it doen properly. The repair turned out fine and for the average joe its cheap and easy. I know i wouldnt fork out to take my car to a body shop to get a spot that size fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gspec Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 for that size repair and for people that don't have access to welders to patch the rust and don't wanna have to take their car to a bodyshop, i don't see a problem with it. Sure if it was a bigger rust patch then get it doen properly. The repair turned out fine and for the average joe its cheap and easy. I know i wouldnt fork out to take my car to a body shop to get a spot that size fixed. If you follow the advise in that video, you will only make matters worse. Here's a few thing we need to consider: - Unsealed metal will rust. - Bog is porous - Fibrefill is only a bog re-enforcer, it does not make bog water tight. - The SYMPTOM was HIDEN, rust was not repaired. You can still do a thorough rust patch-up without a welder. 1) remove ALL rust.. front and back and anywhere it may be hiding. 2) coat all bare metal with a good quility rust paint. 3) once dry, scuff area thoroughly 4) now patch as per video OR buy a propain tourch, some flux and some brass rods. Before you walk off thinking your job is done, stop! Rust accured there for a reason, figure out why it rusted there then take action to revent it from accuring again. Corollas ALL rust in the same places, they all have water issues, adress these issues and the rust is less liekly to return. :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budowski Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) what would have been a more suitable repair ? lead fill or cut and weld in new steel ? oops just re read the post i must have hit enter after you already answered the queston Edited January 4, 2009 by Budowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 err thats very similar to how i do all my body repair work, wire brush it back, use propper fibreglassing, ie the matting and resin, bog over the top, sand lots and paint easy as and is very strong and wont rust as fibreglass dosent rust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Sadly thats not some random dude off the street, thats a video made by Haynes, an automative book publisher. :y: Umm haynes = random, I refuse to buy haynes manuals as the info they give is normally from a random, Gregory's or a car manufacturer book is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gspec Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 what would have been a more suitable repair ? lead fill or cut and weld in new steel ? Depends on a few things but GENERALLY if its not too big good lead fill is pretty good. err thats very similar to how i do all my body repair work, wire brush it back, use propper fibreglassing, ie the matting and resin, bog over the top, sand lots and paint easy as and is very strong and wont rust as fibreglass dosent rust Thats the ticket my friend. Do you seal the metal before apllying the fibreglass, as FG can pull away from bare metal leaving the tiniest gap. This can accure through movment or through the shrinkage during the curing stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 by sealing the metal do you mean sand it back and apply resin then fibreglass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gspec Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 No. I mean get some paint on there first, preferabley rust paint (POR 15) The resin can pull away from the metal. The gap will be micro scopic but it can lead to moister getting in there and turning everything to pus again. Where as if you get some good paint on there, the paint wil adhere to the metal better and the resin will adhere better to the paint. AND it will mean double protection. :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 o really? no i don't do that i thought fibreglass only stuck to bare metal the best not paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gspec Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 o really? no i don't do that i thought fibreglass only stuck to bare metal the best not paint Ok lets say resin doesn't stick as well to paint as it does to metal... Worse case sinario the resin to paint join cracks .. the metal is still sealed and protected. Fibreglass is easier to repair than rust and a small amount of rust is easier to repair than a big hole. I'd rather chance a crack in the paint than chance rust reforming. :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KE30_KE35_KE55 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 AH Magic I wonder if they demonstrate fly wire for those big holes. :y: If it was sealed on the back it might last a while but probably not in a wheel arch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLW42 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 it's all about the dangle lads one bloke swings one way (insert fiberglass) the other bloke swings the other way (insert bog) :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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