trav_555 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Ok well I'm going to need a new clutch for my jdm 16v 4age. It has a Toda racing 3.9kg flywheel. Gonna be used for beginners track days/Drift/Gymkhana also will be my daily. Just wondering: A.) Do i just get an australian spec ae86 Exedy clutch? or do i need to special order one, or do i need it off an ae92 etc. In the FAQ it states that there are 2 types of clutches so I'm guessing I can just get the ae86/ae71 4ac version yea? B.) What are peoples opinions on these clutches? There are a few types I can get which would suit my needs the most? Heavy Duty Kit Heavy Duty Button Kit Heavy Duty Cushion Button Kit There are 2 versions of this: Sports Organic Kit? What are the differences between these clutches and how do they affect drivablity/slipping etc etc. I understand a button clutch would be a pain in a daily car yes? Because it just is either on or off. So really I just don't know what a cushion button is or a sports organic. Thanks in advance. Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSTIK[RL] Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 whats the size of the flywheel your going to be using, 200mm or 212mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted June 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I'm 99% sure its a 200mm Toda version. Did they come out in a 212 mm for 3.9kg? It came with the 4age and it looks like a pretty stock clutch too. I will double check, is it just outside diameter? Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 You want to measure the outside diametre of the clutch disc contact area. Count the splines on the input shaft while you're in the shed and you've got pretty much all you need to know to pick your kit. As for the types: The heavy duty is just that, a heavier duty full disc plate. They'll also come with a heavier clamping force pressure plate. This would be your choise if you want the best everyday drivability, but might slip if you really push it say on a drag strip or drifting. The HDB & HDCB both have several button pucks (depending on the kit) instead of a full plate. Both will be a bit 'grabby' but the difference between the two is the cusioned button has cusioning springs in the middle like a normal clutch, were the HDB just has a solid plate. This makes the HDB pretty much 'on/off' where the HDCB will still have a little bit of give. I have a HDCB in my turbo car with a flywheel which would be about much the same weight as yours. I don't think its too bad and am now used to it, but another member here has just put the same kit in his car and dis-likes it so much he wants to pull it out! It can be a little tricky same for say hill starts but a few more revs and an attentive left foot and you'll be right. :bash: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted June 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Cheers for that :bash: Exactly the info I wanted to know :D I like the idea of the HDCB. But what about these sports organics? Ill measure it tomorow. Cheers. Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted June 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Well its a 200mm TODA racing 3.9kg flywheel, so 4ac clutch then yea? Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Either of these kits should do you: http://www.exedy.com.au/SpecSheet.aspx?Spr...heetRowId=39461 http://www.exedy.com.au/SpecSheet.aspx?Spr...heetRowId=39468 .....hang on, they're both the same kit!!!! :bash: :D and info on ceramic/organic can be found here... http://www.exedy.com.au/SingleSportsSeries.aspx :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted June 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Cheers for that Si. Exactly what I thought. I think I'm going to go the Exedy HDCB clutch. Thanks for all the info on that :bash: much appreciated. Cheers. Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Ceramic buttons are NOT fun to drive on the street. If you intend to drive the car as a daily I would advise you look for another option. If its just going to be a weekend warrior just beware that they can be temperamental. The clutch chatter is very capable of destroying gearboxes if you don't know how to manage it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted June 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Is that only for HD buttons though? not HD cushion buttons? Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Yes cushion buttons too. The difference is the cushioned button will actually slip to a small degree... then promptly chatter like mad. I run an exedy cushioned ceramic button in the silvia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrot Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Do not get any sort of button clutch for street driving. If you do, you will regret it. Button type clutches of any type are for race cars. As above, you will likely destroy the rest of your driveline, possibly have an accident trying to drive normally about town, and almost certainly bring yourself to the attention of you know who..... :bash: Heavy duty will be more than adequate for what you propose whilst retaining driveability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav_555 Posted June 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Ok thanks for tha guys. I see your point. Ill get a heavy duty one, and then later on down the track I will drive a car with a button clutch and test it to see how I like it. Thanks. Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the witzl Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 standard organic clutch for me thanks. 20V has no torque. It would take some pretty impressive effort for it to break a standard clutch (and ive tried). $200 from any decent clutch shop. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattress Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I ran just a stock HD type clutch in my 300 rwhp 180sx. It served me well for a number of years and was still not slipping when i sold the car. On another note, I've driven my brothers 12a turbo 1300 wagon with a button type clutch and it's a pain in the ass around town. I recommend that you go with the heavy duty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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