muzke30 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Posted September 2, 2009 OK as some u guys might know i have a ke30 curently i am in process of changing 4spd to 5spd. jsut put new heavy duty clutch and pressure plate in went in car after changing everything over and found the clutch on engaging at bottem of pedal so i swaped the spring on the arm on the box with my 4spd one spring which was more tighter made little improvment but didnt fix it. so once again i pulled the boxes out and compared them side by side and measured everything from every angle i realised on the k40 the piviot bolt thing in the box is 3-5mm futher back on the box i thinking of swaping them over or puting a washer under the bolt to create more firmer clutch considering its new heavy duty and fells like there is nothing compared to b4 which had a fukt clutch. hoping this works any one come accross this b4 or any ideas or info be appriciated also the k40 is from ke35 if that helps Quote
Evan G Posted September 2, 2009 Report Posted September 2, 2009 what type of clutch did you get/how much it set you back? evan Quote
muzke30 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Posted September 2, 2009 I got CI performance CLutch and rrp $189 comes with pressure plate and thrust bearing and it is a level 2 grade if u wana know what I'm on about check the site http://ciperformance.com.au/ Quote
decoop Posted September 2, 2009 Report Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) What car is the 5 speed out of? Ke55 or ke70? Coz i tried to put a ke70 5 speed into a ke36 once and had the same problem, then i realised that when i put the same box in my previous ke30 that i had used the flywheel out of the ke70 as well. The ke36 i did not. Might have something to do with that maybe??. Edited September 2, 2009 by decoop Quote
coln72 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Posted September 2, 2009 There are specific throw out forks and thrust bearings to suit either position pivot. Mix them up and you get what you have. Found that out the hard way as well. Quote
muzke30 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) well the trust bearing i been told suit all of the above models u probly right about the throw forks tho what do i do? like i said b4 5spd from ke35 thats what i was thinking about the flywheel off the 5spd orginally had if i need that as well omg so confused just want a car on the road doing my head in meant to b easy swap lmao always should anticipate hicups i spose lol IF i adjust the position pivot like i said earlier to what i think it should be compared to how it was in the 4spd really i shouldnt have a problem correct? like i measured it from the front of box to the piviot and the pivot it self the postion is 4-5mm back and pivot is 2-3mm smaller then 4spd one as 4spd has a washer under it. by adjusting the position pivot should be right as long as i do it correctly Edited September 2, 2009 by muzke30 Quote
coln72 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Posted September 2, 2009 from memory, there is only a spring clip holding the fork on. Quote
muzke30 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Posted September 2, 2009 thats correct but i used my 4spd one instead as it was alot less worn strreched but still clutch not working properly i need adjust that position pivot see how i go. if i can get away with out sourcing a fly wheel to match what the 5spd came out of i will as i don't have one rather use the flywheel i have u know what i mean Quote
muzke30 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Posted September 3, 2009 this weekend muzke30 rolla should be on the road thanks too all the advice and info really appriciate it both brakes diffs and gear box all changed should b awsome drive now :P Quote
SLO-030 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 I had this happen in my KE30 with a KE70 5spd. Never knew why, now I do. Thanks guys. Good to hear the cars coming back on the road muz Quote
Raven Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 The 5 speed clutch fork is different to the 4 speed. You can't interchange them between boxes. I had the opposite issue being the car wouldnt go into gear due to the flywheel having a step machined in it. I be getting the step removed before it goes on the 5K thats going into my KE25. Quote
RA28GT Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 Crap i wondered why this happened to me too? I used the clutch fork from a 4 speed because the 5 speed didnt come with one! Is there any harm in driving with the 4 speed fork? The clutch pulls very very late but seems to function correctly? Quote
Raven Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 How are your hill starts Troy? :P Quote
muzke30 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) The 5 speed clutch fork is different to the 4 speed. You can't interchange them between boxes. there is slightly diffrent yes but the thurst bearing is the same also i wont be interchanging them BUT u CAN if u want too dunno if ke70 spd box any diff to the ke35 one i have tho in saying that. what i did swap was the spring that is all. wonder weather to swap the postion piviots or just a washer under my 5spd piviot to bring it inline with the postion the 4spd one was Edited September 3, 2009 by muzke30 Quote
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