JDM55 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 and fitted to the radi .... chunky.... wired up a relay for the fan ,so the wires are there when its time to connect up... this shows how close the mount of the radi got to the intercooler piping, real close but no touchy :) so heres the first challenge on this thing, the bottom tube is a bit long to start with and is aiming right at the alternator, also the tube is 38mm and i need a smaller 36mm sizing, so thats the first mission.... next mission is, the top tube is on the other side, and it to is a 38mm tube ,again i need a 36mm tube, i looked at this one for a while and figured if i had to i could just do an extention to get to where its spose to be, but that ended up with needing 90 degree bends,extra tubing ,a step down from 38 to 36 etc so in the long run it could turn into 100 dollars, just to extend that tube plus it wouldnt be that tidy, going to have to modd some more stuff,suprise suprise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 went for a rumage again and whata ya know came across 2 alloy tubes both 36mm dia,one was a bit short and the other had a heater hose coming off it , after a bit of thought i figured i could use the heater hose tube on the top left and the shorter one on the bottom right,both tubes elimate the need for step downs, which is great plus they will both be in a much better position to make them work, so i tackled the top left one first, i cut off the heater hose line to start with so i was left with more of a tube ,then i rememebed i needed to fit the thermo fan sensor into the line some how,so this turned out to be good also, i widened the heater hose hole a bit bigger and got a alloy fitting to sit snugg into the hole... then taped the tube into a ruff spot and turned to what hoses i had,these hoses are from a s13 kit i got ages ago, so had a good look at these to see what i could make work or at least get a good start with.... as you can see, nothing lines up nice, some more thinking and came up with a rather crude and savage way to get around the problem,needless to say,i didnt want to do this!! but for the greater good of the build and to move forward ,i ended up doing some chopping..... this is a 50 dollar hose and here i am chopping it with a razor blade,i didnt even knw if this was going to work,,, also the outlet needed chopped, specialy didnt want to do this, since i spent a good amount of time to hand sand and polish it up! :( and the test fit ,bolted the end back on ,now to see if i can make this work! i must be crazy..... my idea was to fitt the tube to the left side on the top, then use the choped hose,to go to the choped outlet. more on that later. not only did i butcher the hoses and the outlet but time to attack the radiator too, first part was to chop of the top outlet completley and make up a plate to block that off,and semi chop the bottom tube,i found the 36mm tube i had fits inside the 38mm tube and cut out a hole in the other side... hole cut tube chopped and hole smoothed bottom tube chopped out made up a alloy plate for the top hole this is the 36mm tube sitting inside the 38mm chopped off tube, its not snugg but wont mater,I'm going to try find some one to alloy weld them for me and this is where the top tube with adaptor will go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 this is where the bottom tube was before and this is where it will sitt this is the bottom hose from the s13 kit, it was waayy to long, so i choped it down a bit and started to play around with it,this took a while but started to get it a bit closer to fitting and it was away from the alternator , the bottom hose was a good bend it took it away from the alternator,the top one was good to but to long,just needed to close up the gap and get the right angle cuts... after more stuffing around ,got it pretty close much better looks like its spose to be there some more custom haha found a vacumm cleaner tube that was the right dia to fit into the 2 hoses,used silicone sealer on the insides and the outsides of the tube ,joined it all together and let it set, mite need to put some clamps on there later,dunno i sealed the F#$@ out of it, pretty proud of my custom radiator hose haha now just have to get the rad parts welded up and i can then fit all back in and get some water happening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamin Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Crazy dude, very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh what a nissan feeling! Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Really quick progress there mate, must be great to see it all coming together so nicely. Radiator shroud looks good, should help heaps, just try to mount it with some space in between, 20mm minimum is recomended. Also that last hose is a good idea too, it will need clamps though, also will need the raised edges on the joiner to stop the hose blowing off, or it will catch you out later on. Maybe run a bead of weld around the edges to create the lump? :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Really quick progress there mate, must be great to see it all coming together so nicely. Radiator shroud looks good, should help heaps, just try to mount it with some space in between, 20mm minimum is recomended. Also that last hose is a good idea too, it will need clamps though, also will need the raised edges on the joiner to stop the hose blowing off, or it will catch you out later on. Maybe run a bead of weld around the edges to create the lump? :y: HAHA I'm going hard out now!!! realy wanta get it started asap :) yeah thought about the bead thing probably should have done that ,ill try some clamps for start up and see how it goes,pumped now stuff starting to happen,and massive relief after dealing with the engineer so full steam ahead!! :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Crazy dude, very impressive. haha thanks man ,glad you liking , I'm trying my best ,its just hard with out funds for parts but I'm trying to get things happening cheers for the comment :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUZ440 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Other than progress looks good, You are brave is all I gotta say with regards to fitting up the radiator, but looks a treat Where did you get silicon hoses for an S13 i have searched everywhere, and trying to find a suitable fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Other than progress looks good, You are brave is all I gotta say with regards to fitting up the radiator, but looks a treat Where did you get silicon hoses for an S13 i have searched everywhere, and trying to find a suitable fit cheers,sloooeeely coming together, brave to fitting up the radiator? haha need something in there,it may not stay there for good but to get me going it should be fine,as for the hoses ,i bought a full s13 hose kit on ebay , there alittle bit pricey ,i just didnt want a hole bunch of random hoses ,so ive done the best i could to use hose from the kit, even tho ive had to custom a few of them , its seems to be working out with them,theres a hole bunch of differnt bends to play with . the radiator hoses for me were far to big ,and ive had to mod them a fair bit, id say jump on ebay and search the silicone hoses on there , sure you can get the top and bottom hoses seperately . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 so tonite,just spent a few hours and made a fuel line that goes from the pump to a small filter, thought it be a good idea to have a filter before the pump,keep the crap out of it, then made a small bracket to secure the filter abit better,even put some rubber on the inside of the bracket.. the other cover is over the fuel pump, made that just to keep the dirt and stones off it, so now i just have to make a line from the filter to the surge tank, abit more tricky that one will have some funky bends in it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUZ440 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Also, why don't you run an oil cooler off the remote filter kit? Keep the oil temps down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Also, why don't you run an oil cooler off the remote filter kit? Keep the oil temps down errghh more money more work and as it is i don't trust the set up ,maybe if it performs to hopes ,of not leaking that is, later on i could , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 soo not much of an update today , tho have been working on the car,friday was a bit of a f#$%, i took the radiator down to a shop to get the oulets welded up ,but the guy told me that i can't use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! reason being that the radi desgin is a 4 pass system, the water goes in the top crosses over to the over side,then drops down and crosses back to the other side so on and so on, now if he welded the outlet on the hole that i made , water would go in and only go thru one part of the rad!!! i just thought a radi worked like ,water goes in one side water comes out the other cooled , so i was wrong :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: the guy told me there is plates inside the tanks that direct the water and for it to work those plates need to be removed,he was saying to remove the tanks and make new ones, but the whole reason i bought this rad was to keep it cheap as possible, making new tanks and basicly rebuilding the radiator would cost big dollars, and they said for a full custom one it would cost 650 to 700, stuff that!!!!!!!! so i left the place very disapointed , :sob: i was on a good roll there for abit things were working out well, any way i got back to the work shop and decided to try and save the rad, theres no way i could aford a brand new custom one,that is just out of the question, so only option is save this radiator!! and i need it very soon so i can get the engine started, as that is my priority at the moment, so to see if this guy was right i sliced the bottom off both tanks to see if there were indeed plates in there.... there was :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: ,any way a very long story short it was a nite of making crazy contraptions and extended long drill bits i managed to hack out the plates blocking the water flow, spent a long time blowing out all the alloy chips and shavings then flushed it out with water, it was a mission and a half, needless to say i think i saved it ,and only extra welding that is needed is to weld the 2 bottom tank plates back on, sat morning was a drive out to the rad shop once more,and showed them what id done, they said it will work now and just requies all the welding up, so ive left it up to them to sort that out, wont get it ack till end of next week , but at least it should be fairly straight forward to fit it up then, next adventure was on the way back from the rad guys i went to pirtech which is a hose place ,they make all sorts of hoses, went in and had to get some fuel lines made up with speed flow fittings, as the last few attemps have failed and resulted in leaks, so this time i got them to use the proper hose with the proper fittings and they fitted the hose ends, so i expect that there SHOULD be no leaks from those fittings, but apperently theres no gaurentees , so its just another case of dealing with people in the automotive industry, any way i put them on to the car and will see how they go , getting back from the shop with some fuel lines.... in this pic theres lots of cash laying on the ground lol, -6 braided lines with speedflow fittings(not cheap )stainless bolts ,washers,nuts,and s/s hose clamps rolling around on the ground and got them on... after that i worked abit on the boot .alot of wiring and fitted the amp board, and got most of the speaker wires hooked up,trying to keep it tydy but so many wires! is crazy, but looks ok i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamin Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Sucks about the radiator mate. But a bit of welding will be alot cheaper that fabbin' a new one! Car's lookin beautiful man, keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM55 Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Sucks about the radiator mate. But a bit of welding will be alot cheaper that fabbin' a new one! Car's lookin beautiful man, keep up the good work. thanks ,yeah thats what i figured too, i left it in there hands so hopefully they can sort it out ,and not charge me a lung a left leg and a ball sack ,lol , cars getting there , this weekend i should know if the radiator is all good and ill be off again full steam ahead!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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