Evan G Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) ill look into that mate, see how cheap i can get this thru work. if its gonna cost $80 or more I'm going for hid's. edit - i just found hid's 5000k h4 35w for $66. even cheaper since I'm going to pick em up. WIN! Edited May 15, 2011 by Evan G Quote
7shades Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 My Chaser has factory HID, I know all about them. They're adustable... And the parabolic dish, housing and reflecting lens on the headlight are designed specifically for the light pattern a HID 'bulb' emits. An AE82, KE, or whatever, does not have these things. The resulting effect is akin to shining a spotlight into a saucepan. Fine when everything is dead level, but as soon as you go over the tiniest bump you'll start flashing people. This is why they are illegal. Quote
Evan G Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 >| whos driven infront of a new 4wd at night with factory hid's and a really low car. I'm gonna adjust em right up just to piss off 4wd owners! Quote
ae824ate Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Posted May 15, 2011 f@$k it. I regret starting conversations sometimes. Ive done 3 conversions, with 3 different cars, with 3 different lamps with different concave and complex shapes and points of light reflection etc. The same kit has been used with all 3 cars, with fantastic results. It is not irritating in any way to other drivers (on low beam), we have tested and checked everything! What i was asking was, has anyone put a kit in a KEXX, not if you think its a good idea or not, or how much you hate extremely bright HID's. Have you put a kit into an older model lamp 7shades? If you have, id love to hear the outcome of it. Pretty soon we will see the results of H4 HID in an early square koito corolla lamp. If it is a horrible outcome, it will be removed from the car. Quote
Evan G Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 I'm picking up a h4 35w 5000k kit tomorrow for $50. ill let you guys know the results when done and some pics Quote
7shades Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 f@$k it. I regret starting conversations sometimes. Ive done 3 conversions, with 3 different cars, with 3 different lamps with different concave and complex shapes and points of light reflection etc. The same kit has been used with all 3 cars, with fantastic results. It is not irritating in any way to other drivers (on low beam), we have tested and checked everything! What i was asking was, has anyone put a kit in a KEXX, not if you think its a good idea or not, or how much you hate extremely bright HID's. Have you put a kit into an older model lamp 7shades? If you have, id love to hear the outcome of it. Pretty soon we will see the results of H4 HID in an early square koito corolla lamp. If it is a horrible outcome, it will be removed from the car. It's better you started the conversation. It's conjecture. I haven't put HID's into a Corolla lamp, because its illegal, and EVERY other 5x7 conversion I have encountered, regardless of the vehicle, is blinding. The round lenses are even worse. I've had perfectly acceptable results using newer housings and decent H4 bulbs. Quote
Raven Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 There are two types of HID design. Projector and reflector. The mistake people make are they fit a projector-designed HID bulb into a reflector housing, which causes the blindness. Research and buy the correct HID kit BEFORE you even THINK about putting these into a new housing. Quote
ae824ate Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) There are two types of HID design. Projector and reflector. The mistake people make are they fit a projector-designed HID bulb into a reflector housing, which causes the blindness. Research and buy the correct HID kit BEFORE you even THINK about putting these into a new housing. I'm over discussing this, but thanks Raven, i hope people do understand exactly how things work before they play around with them. Even the different gases and combinations and ratios that are confined in the bulb (usually giving a hotter/colder burning) the kelvin rating and a differ in colour, also the different metal material that is used as the filament, gives different types of light, and colour. Alot of which we can't even see. Edited May 15, 2011 by ae824ate Quote
Raven Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) You're correct in saying all of the above. The higher the Kelvin rating, the more blue a colour of light emitted. My stock HID's in my chaser are of a 4300k rating. Anything higher and it becomes more blue in the light emitted and less light on the road. I'm glad you have an understanding of kelvin ratings. Not many people do. :) Edited May 15, 2011 by Raven Quote
ae824ate Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Posted May 15, 2011 You're correct in saying all of the above. The higher the Kelvin rating, the more blue a colour of light emitted. My stock HID's in my chaser are of a 4300k rating. Anything higher and it becomes more blue in the light emitted and less light on the road. I'm glad you have an understanding of kelvin ratings. Not many people do. :) Thats right, anything over 4300-5000K, it emits a frequency of light that the eye can not see and it becomes useless sorta. Glad we are on the same page. The intensity of the light is a different matter. As i said before, when people hear HID they have a mind set for blinding stupidly intense light, and thats not right. Thats not what it is. A high intensity discharge is just that, and it is very adjustable and friendly. Really depends how it is set up, and the reason why i don't wish to talk to people having a bitch, not knowing the person they are whinging and preaching to. CBF. Bah, sick of this thread.... Quote
7shades Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 Right. So it's become (blindingly?) apparent you're not one of the retard kids I like to burn with spotlight-y fire. Kudos. But if you possess such boundless knowledge, why bother asking how HID's will fare in a KE housing? Answer: Exactly the same as any other standard housing. The vehicle is irrelevant. Furthermore, your topic centred around an illegal modification which 90% of people get wrong, is unsafe, and gives me the f*cking shits. My response was justified in not wanting to encourage it. Quote
ke70dave Posted May 15, 2011 Report Posted May 15, 2011 my s15 silvia came with a cheapo HID kit installed from the outside of the car, it certainly looked cool. gave it that modern look we all love. but the light they put out was a bit weird...very very white, and quite intense. one started flicker, so i threw them out and got some narva "blue power, 80% more light, 20% whiter light" bulbs, about 75bucks. just standard replacement bulbs. result? narvas kick ass over the HID's, soooo much light, and light that is actually useful for seeing things. and no crappy balasts to worry about. moral to the story, a good HID kit in a proper housing is good (ie a hid kit that is $500+, not the $99 forum special) a crap hid kit in a non hid housing = worse than standard bulbs. Quote
towe001 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Posted May 16, 2011 a couple of Hella Ralleye 4000's directly into your retinas. Mmm Ralleye 4000's Been wondering if i should put them (and a second pair) on the ke30. From memory JiP's done it when he had Lolla Quote
Evan G Posted May 16, 2011 Report Posted May 16, 2011 i just finished putting 55w 5000k hids in my 55 f@$k me does it shit all over halogen! best investment ever! edit - they have been aligned properly so they don't blind other users Quote
ae824ate Posted May 16, 2011 Author Report Posted May 16, 2011 i just finished putting 55w 5000k hids in my 55 f@$k me does it shit all over halogen! best investment ever! edit - they have been aligned properly so they don't blind other users Any chance of some pics Evan? Mine arrived today, but i work 14 hours a day and can't spare half an hour atm. Quote
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