10K Budget For Ke55 Forced Induction Build

[Rion_55]

Need some guidence from some people that have already done sinething similar (want to do it right the first time if I can hah)

If anyone could link some similar build threads or throw some ideas my way that would be great

 

My ideas so far are either a:

20v + twin turbo

16v ze + twin or pos. Just single

 

R31 front end

RX3 rear? Or hilux because its easier and cheaper

 

 

I'm located in western suburbs Vic so some shops that might be able to help me out with turbo choice and and ECU set up.

 

 

Thanks in advance for any help guys!

[indelible]

twin turbo is a waste of time and money , properly sized single can spool sooner and make more power

 

how much work can you do yourself? (mechanical,fabrication,wiring +have all tools ect) does this include the car or need to buy that too?

as that will factor in whether it can be done for 10k ,it all adds up very quickly

 

with only 10k you will want an engine made for forced induction to begin with in my opinion be able to do all the work yourself

 

if its just an initial 10k to start with and don't mind spending more as you go its not so much of a problem

but if strict 10k knowing what parts you need/want before you start then add it all up for a proper budget and go from there

[Rion_55]

The twin turbo is more for something different really, as soon as I go to a turbo specialist and they tell me theirs no point is pretty much when I drop the idea too hah

 

I'm a qualified mechanic and have a full workshop (just bought welder compresser and pretty much everything else Ill need) I have been working on corollas since I was a kid and while doing my appenticeship had the fortune that one of my bosses was a panel beater by trade so I picked up the basics from him and also fixed all the rust in the car (so yes I already have the car)

 

I will be building the motor myself to save costs and also because thats what I would like to do. Most engine builders don't offer warranty on motor builds like this so I shouldnt really be losing much.

 

Its a 10k start budget, I was thinking 5k into suspention/drivetrain exc-trans and 5k to get a running motor in the car and ready to be boosted. So no turbo but with forged internals and ecu to suit the build ect

 

I just want to get a rough idea on the parts Ill need for the suspension first and whether going with R31 front brakes is a good move and if its worth going disc rear end with the rx or staying drum.

 

Also I guess I should mention that the car will be for Sunday drives and Track Days

[Mechanical Sympathy]

If I had a budget like that I'd be keen for a 3RZ turbo.

 

I admit they're ugly, but also different - and still Toyota. Though probably more suited to quarter miles than racetracks and hard to register for Sunday drives.

 

 

[B.L.Z.BUB]

I put a stock GZE in my ke70 for about $3500 doing all the work myself. Add another $500 for a 55 for custom mounts and tailshaft. Thats 4k for something not even built. Then theres my cams $600, SC14, $350, FMIC $100, 2.5" piping $100, 7mgte injectors $100, thats another $1300. Over $5k without opening the engine.

 

Just an idea on prices.

[Rion_55]

Ill be putting it on club plates at first and if I really feel the need to which I doubt ill get an engineers cert for a rw.

 

I know that it wont be enough to get a fully built car but like I said if I can get it ready I can save up and do the turbo work later.

Also curious as to whether that was all trade pricing?

 

I'm kind of getting the hint that I should pick and build a motor before looking at suspension?? :/

[B.L.Z.BUB]

All my prices were mainly sourcing good 2nd hand parts. So double prices if you want to do stuff new.

 

All work done by myself apart from ally welding the manifold which I got done for free by a mate.

 

I'm a tight ass.

[B.L.Z.BUB]

My front suspension was about $1200 doing it cheap, and I havent even bought good shocks yet.

[ke70dave]

Problem is 10K wont get you all the way if you are talking about the entire car and doing it properly.

 

To be perfectly honest i would look out for someone selling an almost finished complete car that the owner is selling for cheap. If for nothing else than to transfer all the parts onto your car, you can even sell some in order to buy other parts. But if you do the math on what it costs to properly build a car like you are talking about from scratch even with doing all the work yourself id say by the time you have the engine, transmission, differential, suspension, interiour, wheels, tyres, brakes, seats, gauges, ecu, paint, all done good and proper the first time, you're talking like 15k i reckon.

 

there was a 4agte ke70 for sale either on here or gumtree, which if you knocked him down a bit would be somethign worth considering.

Edited May 7, 2014 by ke70dave

[Rion_55]

So if I get a set of front struts inc brakes off a r31, has there been a write up on what needs to be modded to fit them?

 

The point of me doing this is to build my own car, not taje a perfectly good (or close to it) car and move the stuff i to mine.

 

don't want to paint the car and if I did I could do it myself, interior is done and I have a roll cage all i need is a seat and harnes which can come later.

 

What I'm doing is basically running gear, suspension and brakes. Thats it, and thats what the initial 10k is for. Nothing else haha

[It's_AUDM_Yo]

R31 front end is huge! its going to raise your car quite a lot imagine, Just go s13 if your desperate to put nissan stuff in. Or put ae86 stuff in if you want proper handling.

 

I would go Hilux or r31 rear end.

 

Also two turbos on a 1.6l is very wishful thinking

 

What do you want to do with the car/what power numbers are you after?

[Rion_55]

Ive just heard that the 31 brakes fit, not fussed on make when it comes to brakes as long as they have good stopping power. AE86 huh? Do any retailers have kits or will I have to go second hand?

 

Not worth going disc rear with an rx diff? Wouldnt that beway easier because theyre already leaf spring?

 

I was thinking something like a small turbo to go to 5-7psi on low revs and have a larger one kick in for the higher boost. I want something perky, power straight away and quick reving. A motor built to habdle 25-30psi but only running 15-20 for now.

[Rion_55]

Just to add, the turbo can be done at a later stage (I'm still on my p's) my goal is if I go 20v to have it built ready for the boost and in the car running pos. On an aftermarket ecu depending on budget.

[B.L.Z.BUB]

Twin charge GZE. SC12 for low then have the turbo kick in for top end.

[ke70dave]

Or higher compression gze with a properly sized turbo.