crunk81us Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hi Guys, I have spent a lot of time and money so far on gathering all the bits i need for my new engine. I wont go into the list of parts, but it is substantial, i have bought very high quality parts throughout and should have a redline above or around 9k rpm. (limited to 8500 for longevitys sake. hope to have a second tune done after running in for if i want to push a bit harder on race day ;) 2 questions i cannot find answers to. 1- full gasket kit.. do i need one? I have a trd .8mm HG, and oem manifold gaskets. The head is fully rebuilt. Are there any other gaskets i will need, or will gasket goo be fine or better or what? I don't want to spend all these dollars and have a leaky engine. 2- I have bought a set of ACL race bearings, (havent arrived yet) but as far as i can see they do not come with main/crank bearings?? is there a quality item i can use here? I can't find anything other than cheapish ebay stuff. maybe oem? please don't flame me and tell me to search. I have. lots :) And yes I know there are dedicated 4age sites, but they are not quite as helpful as the people i have come into contact with here and seem to ignore what might look like an already covered topic. tia :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhachi Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I Rebuilt a 3k from scratch everything new.. and of the few parts/gaskets that werent completely refurbished or replaced they shit themselves or leaked shortly after rebuild was complete.. used gasket goo etc.. for peace of mind especially if your going to push it i would hold back until you can get all new gaskets. Unless your HG is in really good condition I would opt for a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfrederick Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 As for bearings my usual preference is ACL Race, then King and then normal ACL. i used king big end bearings in my 4A rods without a problem at high revs. What is the bearing that you have? normally you need a set for the mains and a set for the big ends. thats it. make sure you have measured your crank to make sure you get either standard or undersize, depending if the crank has been ground or just polished. -Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunk81us Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 As for bearings my usual preference is ACL Race, then King and then normal ACL. i used king big end bearings in my 4A rods without a problem at high revs. What is the bearing that you have? normally you need a set for the mains and a set for the big ends. thats it. make sure you have measured your crank to make sure you get either standard or undersize, depending if the crank has been ground or just polished. -Phil I have acl race rod bearings. king hey? I will have a search :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunk81us Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I Rebuilt a 3k from scratch everything new.. and of the few parts/gaskets that werent completely refurbished or replaced they shit themselves or leaked shortly after rebuild was complete.. used gasket goo etc.. for peace of mind especially if your going to push it i would hold back until you can get all new gaskets. Unless your HG is in really good condition I would opt for a new one. got a new trd .8mm hg, realised i will def need crank seals etc as well. i think i will grab a complet oem kit (provided its not 11 billionty dollars) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ke70dave Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I used this brand back in the day. http://www.ebay.com....=item3f3389a3c5 You should be able to buy the bottom end gaskets in a kit too. Are you suggesting to reuse a head gasket? is it completely made of metal? Edited November 6, 2014 by ke70dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanical Sympathy Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 A re-used gasket is a leaking gasket! Amayama Trading is brilliant for OEM parts/gaksets/bearings etc. provided you know the part number (i.e. from Toyodiy.com) and are happy to wait a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonboy Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Most gaskets you will require will be in a VRS kit, with the exception of the oil pump gasket (which should come with a new pump). I recommend talking to Sam from SQ Engineering for crank seals etc, he has genuine Toyota items in stock at decent prices. I used Taiho bearings in my rebuild, nothing against ACL, they were just more readily available to me. However you end up acquiring parts, if you're going to the effort of building a new engine, why would you put a secondhand gasket in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrot Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The TRD metal headgaskets are designed for multiple use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunk81us Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I used this brand back in the day. http://www.ebay.com....=item3f3389a3c5 You should be able to buy the bottom end gaskets in a kit too. Are you suggesting to reuse a head gasket? is it completely made of metal? no i have a brand new one. I have a running engine in my car while i build my good engine with ALL new parts :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunk81us Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Most gaskets you will require will be in a VRS kit, with the exception of the oil pump gasket (which should come with a new pump). I recommend talking to Sam from SQ Engineering for crank seals etc, he has genuine Toyota items in stock at decent prices. I used Taiho bearings in my rebuild, nothing against ACL, they were just more readily available to me. However you end up acquiring parts, if you're going to the effort of building a new engine, why would you put a secondhand gasket in it? ALL brand new gaskets... I was trying ascertain which other gaskets i need and which i can use gasket goo for.. I have found a bottom end kit with main seals, pump seals etc. the head already has all new parts and gaskets. I think any others i should be able to use goo for. Also found myself acl race mains as well as rod bearings. for those interested my parts list (ordered and already have): all going in a smallport.. camtech 290 degree intake and exhaust cams hd valve springs fully rebuilt, ported and port matched head and intake toda cam pulleys (only used part in build.. in great condition though) HKS (from memory) timing belt 12:1 cp pistons spool rods acl race bearings arp head studs, rod bolts, flywheel bolts lightweight flywheel 5 puck clutch trd .8mm hg ttt lightweight pulley there will be other bits and pieces like water pump etc but thats the boring stuff ;) all will be machined honed and balanced. not totally decided but looking at microtech with race dash will be running e85 and dependant on clearances and cc of heads etc, hoping to machine to close to 13:1 comp. Also hoping it will stay a non interference engine thanks to the large valve recess in the cp pistons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot35 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 It'll be good to see what sort of power you get :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfrederick Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 I would be surprised if you were able to keep it non-interference with a 13:1 comp ratio, from memory i had issues with valve-valve interference with those cams if you turned them over individually as well. something to keep in mind when dialing up the cams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunk81us Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 I would be surprised if you were able to keep it non-interference with a 13:1 comp ratio, from memory i had issues with valve-valve interference with those cams if you turned them over individually as well. something to keep in mind when dialing up the cams. I'm not too fussed if it becomes an interference engine, would be nice if it didnt.. the cp pistons have large recesses in them for oversized valves and high lift cams. as my cams are only 8.6mm lift and the majority of my compression comes from the pistons.. i am keeping fingers crossed that it will be ok. It'll be good to see what sort of power you get :) yeah I know right ;) I can't wait :D also trying to find a quad throttle setup, I have a complete silvertop intake, so i guess i might have to pay the crazy price from ttt for a small chunk of alloy ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunk81us Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 doing COP conversion too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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